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It's Raining MenSo, the much-talked-about Seminar 2003 pictures are here, in which masses of screaming women ogle the firemen who drop from the ceiling. Apparently from the pictures it appears they also did some sort of dance onstage, a la Chippendale's. I'm assuming they did not actually strip. They have professional standards, yo. So here's a rhetorical question: what is WITH this crazy double standard in Mary Kay re: "professional business image"???? I mean, these ladies can't even have a freakin' glass of wine, or wear pants, and yet they have firemen raining from the ceiling to the tune of "It's raining men". I suppose this was some sort of "reward" for all the hard work these ladies did to get to Seminar. But let's be serious for a moment. If I couldn't have a beer and had to toddle around in heels and skirts every day, and wasn't allowed to utter a negative thought--I would be screaming at the top of my lungs like a caged animal if someone dangled a hot firefighter in front of me. It's probably a release of all that pent-up energy, so maybe this was, like, therapy or something. yeah.
And of course, after all of this therapeutic man-watching, we must reflect on the awesomeness of Mary Kay:
And people say this is a cult. It is so not a cult. For real. I mean it. Shut up. Comments OK - this goes back to one of my earlier comments on "reverse sexism". If my husband went to a professional business seminar to improve his sales, knowledge, connections, whatever, and hot babes slid down from the ceiling on poles and shimmied around the stage, I would be angry. That is demeaning and sexist and has no place at a business function. At a bachelor/bachelorette party, yes. Training seminar? No. I experienced several incidents where MK people either put down my husband or even THEIR OWN as a way to "puff" up women in the room - and frankly it is offensive. Just as offensive as a lap dance in the boardroom. And, one more thing. Was chatting with someone in a coffee shop the other day, and we got into the story about my MK director pressuring me to cut my hair. This person I had just met did not know I had ever been in MK and she didn't know anyone else in it either. The first words out of her mouth were, "Sheeesh, that sounds like a cult..." Oh oh oh - and why do you have to buy more inventory, --- I mean sell more --- to be in the main arena at Seminar instead of some side room with TVs. Why not have more seminars if there are so many people who need to go hear the message and get GREAT TRAINING!
Mary Kay herself had strange sexist views. One of my favorite quotes of hers is
"I think when God made man, he was just practicing! His ultimate creation was
woman."
ooh ooh! I just asked my husband if he would have been upset if I had gone to
Dallas for seminar and been screaming at firemen at the awards show...he said
"yeah, probably". Ok, that so did not live up to my expectations. Man. I don't think I'd be giving away too many secrets to say that the candle thing reminds me of sorority initiation or pref night during rush where you are supposed to make them cry! But even in my sorority we did not all have the same hairstyle--look at them, like little pink clones! Just looked closer...with all the firemen in the house, you'd think they could've used real fire instead of those chintzy candlesticks you stick in the window at Christmas! Real fire is much more emotional--LOL! *Sarcasm* Yeah, nothing turns me on like full clothed fake fireman boy DANCERS. (Read: Rockettes with a smidgen more testosterone but just a smidgen.) Can we hold hands and sing now? Have any of you seen the original movie "The Stepford Wives" (SPOILER ALERT) You remember at the end, when the heroine opened her eyes and they were solid black? Her essence was gone and she was replaced by a robot? Does this picture remind you of that? Look at their eyes.
*holding out my hand* "I once was loooost, but now I'm found, was bliiiind, but now I seeeeee" Wow, I am now sorry I didnt make it to seminar 2003. No one told me it was all about raining men. I chose not to do seminar each year because I could not get leave from my real JOB. But how fun it must have been to be sitting in a huge room with men raining down on you. :) It's definitely very Stepfordesque--I really think the whole dressing alike thing is kind of creepy, too. I am so sorry that I will be away from my computer all day tomorrow. I can only imagine the pinkmockery that will commence. Too hard to read all in one sitting though because the crazies just get so boring and redundant. Don't worry, you can't spoil the original Stepford Wives. The book adaptation of the screenplay has a picture of that on the cover. Or at least the one we had did. Ok, I guess I'm a dirty old woman at the tender age of 27. You tell me there are men coming down poles dressed like firemen and they're playing "It's Raining Men" it kind of sets some expectations. Not high ones (pretty low ones if you think about, wink-wink, nudge-nudge) but I wasn't thinking about this being an MK thing. Just wanted to see some hot guys. I'm more manly than some of the guys in that performing troupe. Lol...I am so glad I mentioned the Dancing Firemen in a previous post....This is a great post this morning....Thanks, PinkCaddie! (-: What is really sad is that I was at Seminar 2003 and I don't remember this at all! All this at a supposed "business meeting" and they wonder why we don't consider MK an actual business. "Mary Kay herself had strange sexist views. One of my favorite quotes of hers is "I think when God made man, he was just practicing! His ultimate creation was woman." No REAL Christian would make such a comment. The Bible does not say that God was just "practicing" when he created Adam. Maybe the reason KayBots are so anti-male, is because they've had many bad experiences with men. You know, like they've been dumped countless times by their boyfriends and husbands. Show me a woman who is a "man hater" and I will show you a woman who has failed in all of her relationships...all of them. I agree about the man bashing. Just another turn-off about MK. I know if I was at an Institute of Internal Auditors Seminar (for women in auditing) and they had dancing fireman - I'd be quite uncomfortable. Now if some manager tried to have something like this where I work, they would be warned or fired. It's called sexual harrassment. In most of corporate America, it wouldn't be tolerated. Oh yeah, they bash Corporate America too. I thought we were the bashers.
Hey, Bring on the mexican, indian, asian and african-american men too....whoo-hooo!! "I don't see any men but caucasian...I would want to see some diversity! " MK does not strike me as being the most enlightened organization out there. ROTFLMAO!!! *with tears* PC, you (and these pics) are hilarious!!!
I am in agreement with Toncathoody and Princessa--the men in those pictures
don't really look like beefcakes...more like chicken patties. ITA!! I like my mental vision of the event much better! :P Whats really sad is I'd bet those guys don't even like girls! "Whats really sad is I'd bet those guys don't even like girls!" Yeah, probably MK's most loyal customers. *wink*
in my opinion thats why she hit the glass ceiling. MKD, where are you??? You-hooooo! Got more pics!!
I know--was wondering about him too. Seems to have disappeared. I hope he's just
really busy or something. These picture could be on the cover of Mid Life Crisis Magazine. Bunch of middle-aged women drooling and salivating over firefighters.
Okay, what should i post tomorrow? I'm feeling ambivalent.
1. fun quotes from Mary Kay Ash I pick number 2
Heeee The more flame-throwing the better, huh? CULTS CULTS CULTS (Anyone wanna bet that the Kaybots are going to claim that we ourselves are cultish?) In the same vein....did you guys chech out the Tom Cruise is nuts link posted here? Completely hysterical!
yeah--that's one of my favorite sites. Did you hear he was going to eat the
placenta after katie had the baby? But then he tried to pass it off as a joke.
"But then he tried to pass it off as a joke. Yeah right!! He had a detailed recipe for the 'placenta' dish!! UGH!!! Oh holy trashcan, I think I'm gonna puke. off topic again guys--
Do any of you remember the little "ditty" we have to recite when we become
consultants?
yep...lame. okay--do any of you remember the whole ditty?? I'm trying to remember the whole thing for a specific purpose, and I can't exactly call up my recruiter. (Since we haven't talked since I quit MK) With this pin, I am so cute. Away with my jeans and on with my suit. I don't know much, but I can learn. The more I do, the more I earn. My dreams once far, are so near. My faith I'll walk, but not by fear. My Mr. Wonderful doubts that I'll make money. But soon he'll be saying, "I knew you could, honey.'
Lori: Okay Lori--how the heck did you know the ditty???!!! Thank you!!!
Except my unit had an extra stanza at the end with the butt wiggle, so I'll have
to try to remember that. darn darn darn
Oh here there's more! YES!! That was it!!!
Are you spying on Mary Kay ladies for me, Lori???
*chuckling* I just emailed you the article. Very interesting. Hey I am willing to see every side and your side has alot to back it up. I'm just scared cause I find it interesting! well, it is interesting. In a sick kind of way, like how I find Tom Cruise fascinating.... It's a trainwreck! I think every unit has their own "new consultant's mantra" as ours was quite different. Ours was
With this pin comes many things and I can't remember the rest because I zoned out most of the time. I hated sales meetings. Here's another:
"I'm active, I'm attractive and I'm in demand!
*gag* oh that's gooooooood... It's an affirmation!
I will not flinch in the face of sacrifice, *hurling* I don't remember having to do any of the dumb "affirmations", but I knew they were out there. What I do remember vividly is the stupid songs we had to sing. Our units theme song was "A whole new world" from Aladdin. Gee, I used to like that song to. I also remember being at career conference and seminar and singing songs that belonged in the Christian arena with the words changed to glorify MK. It made me feel ill. "Paid up" Well that sure is the truth in MLM!
My Friends were all shocked "I also remember being at career conference and seminar and singing songs that belonged in the Christian arena with the words changed to glorify MK. It made me feel ill." That is rather disgusting. MK is a religious cult that has twisted Christianity to suit its own purposes. Whoever posted the comment about hearing those songs at Seminar and CC should check the history in their heads. I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT AT A COMPANY EVENT, only ones held by NSDs or directors...big difference. NSDs represent THE COMPANY so NO...... No difference!!! If Mary Kay Corp. doesn't agree with what the NSDs are doing and saying at THEIR events then Mary Kay Corp. should terminate them and sue for Deformation of Character.
you mean defamation of character, right?
Both can apply. After all, their character is being 'deformed/disfigured' by the NSDs, too, right? ;-) Cray Zee, I don't need to "check the history in my head". It was one of those defining moments that made me realize that MK was not honoring the Lord that I serve. At the Career conference it was the songs which I let slide. I found it disturbing, but was willing to overlook it at the time. It was at seminar in the main arena where the combination of the songs as well as the use of Christian beliefs and scripture were twisted to suit MK. And it wasn't just one time. It happened several times throughout the week. I realized then that I could not stay in MK and be in God's will. |
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