Lisa Says You Should Take Ownership For Drinking the Mary Kay Kool-Aid

Your Name: Lisa

Are You Active or Inactive? yes. Started my business in 2006

Amount of Initial Inventory You Purchased: $1,800

How were you recruited?  Tell us all the details.
My sister-in-law gave me a pampering while I was on vacation visiting my in-laws. I feel [sic] in love with the product.

Do you have a memorable experience from your time in Mary Kay? If so, please tell us about it.
That would have to be my first Seminar experience. I recall dancing in a ballroom with a ton of other IBCs to Donna Summer’s ‘Stamp Your Feet.’ The energy, the hope and the excitement in the room was amazing!

What are you doing now?
I’m a double entrepreneur. So I spend my time primarily operating and growing my primary business (meeting planning) but still love connecting with women through my Mary Kay business.

Feel free to include any additional comments here:
Like many of you, I went into business myself as a way to stay at home and raise my daughter yet contribute to my household. I’ve been in business for myself successfully since 2000. You have to be SMART and really investigate an opportunity before you invest in it. This business is not for everyone. And unfortunately, there are a lot of women out there who are destroying the empire Mary Kay Ash built because of their thirst to be at the top no matter how they get there. I am very happy with my MK business. I still get a lot of reward from teaching women of all ages the importance of taking care of their skin and helping them to feel beautiful. I believe in the product we sell. And I believe anyone can succeed in this business with the right attitude and some legitimate mentorship. I feel sorry for all the women who find themselves bitter from the negative experiences they’ve had. But I wonder how many of them take ownership for drinking the kool-aid and not asking the hard questions you have to ask when making business decisions. So for those of you considering starting your own MK business, do your research, discuss the opportunity with your family, weigh all the options, and most importantly, pray about your decision. Remember, you always have the right to say “no” to someone regardless if they’re telling you to sign up for a special MK training or invest in a $2,400 inventory order. Mary Kay started this business to give you an opportunity. It’s up to the person accepting the opportunity to run it with the same style of class and decorum she did.

Are You Active or Inactive?
yes. Started my business in 2006
Amount of Initial Inventory You Purchased:
$1,800
How were you recruited? Tell us all the details.
My sister-in-law gave me a pampering while I was on vacation visiting my in-laws. I feel in love with the product.
Do you have a memorable experience from your time in Mary Kay? If so, please tell us about it.
That would have to be my first Seminar experience. I recall dancing in a ballroom with a ton of other IBCs to Donna Summer’s ‘Stamp Your Feet.’ The energy, the hope and the excitement in the room was amazing!
What are you doing now?
I’m a double entrepreneur. So I spend my time primarily operating and growing my primary business (meeting planning) but still love connecting with women through my Mary Kay business.
Feel free to include any additional comments here:
Like many of you, I went into business myself as a way to stay at home and raise my daughter yet contribute to my household. I’ve been in business for myself successfully since 2000. You have to be SMART and really investigate an opportunity before you invest in it. This business is not for everyone. And unfortunately, there are a lot of women out there who are destroying the empire Mary Kay Ash built because of their thirst to be at the top no matter how they get there. I am very happy with my MK business. I still get a lot of reward from teaching women of all ages the importance of taking care of their skin and helping them to feel beautiful. I believe in the product we sell. And I believe anyone can succeed in this business with the right attitude and some legitimate mentorship. I feel sorry for all the women who find themselves bitter from the negative experiences they’ve had. But I wonder how many of them take ownership for drinking the kool-aid and not asking the hard questions you have to ask when making business decisions. So for those of you considering starting your own MK business, do your research, discuss the opportunity with your family, weigh all the options, and most importantly, pray about your decision. Remember, you always have the right to say “no” to someone regardless if they’re telling you to sign up for a special MK training or invest in a $2,400 inventory order. Mary Kay started this business to give you an opportunity. It’s up to the person accepting the opportunity to run it with the same style of class and decorum she did.

Comments

  1. I chose to be a consultant in 2004 or 2005.  At that time I only had to make one Mary Kay order for $200 (retail $400) per year.  I didn’t mind it because I had great customers who really needed the products.  Then I had a problem with a customer who was not local and Pro Pay was HORRIBLE to deal with.  I finally got that situation cleared up but had to threaten to sue Pro Pay and block them from my email list.  Now I have to make a $200 purchase order every 3 months and that is not at all convenient for me.  I also persuaded my sister to be a part of Mary Kay before the 3 month policy  went into effect and now she doesn’t even purchase products to sell to others.  This business opportunity was a great experience at first but the “rules” have changed and it’s not very easy.  I really feel that Mary Kay has not fullfilled all of my expectations. 

  2. tonya – the ‘rules’ haven’t changed.  one only needs to order $200 wholesale every 3 months to stay “active” with mary kay.  “active” doesn’t mean anything unless you have recruits.  one orders $200 wholesale once a year to even stay a consultant with the company.  so you don’t have to order every 3 months if you don’t want to – unless you have recruits and even then you can wait 6 months without losing them.  if your director is telling you otherwise, this info might help you.

  3. Personally, I believe that a lot of the “kool aid” is being dished out by dishonest directors and recruiters struggling to stay afloat.  The rule in our unit was never to mention inventory until after a recruit had signed up.  In my case, I was told that $600 was the MINIMUM I could buy – didn’t know anything about the $200 until later. 

    This is just 1 simple example of the “bitterness” that I was left with.

  4. so, I have a question about staying active…..if you only place a $200 order once a year, do you still qualify for the 50% discount, or is that only if you order $200 every 3 months? is that the misleading part?

  5. Frances, yes that is the misleading part.  When you place a $200 wholesale order you get the 50% discount for the remainder for that month plus the next 2 months.
    If you have a team of recruits, you must be active the month your recruit orders or you will not collect the commission.  This is the major reason so many ladies end up with a pile of debt and an overstock of inventory

  6. come on Ladies… it’s $200.00 in 3 months…if you can’t sell that amount in 3 months with your own personal use and friends, and sales then you really should just be a customer and not a sales consultant.

    • Pam, A real business doesn’t rely on your own use of the product to count as sales, nor your having to get sales from friends. I understand the point you’re trying to make, but you could do it in a nicer way.

      • Pam, I do agree… and some people do decide to join for personal use… and it does not take that much product for any one person I know.

  7. Pam,

    I think over half of the girls in my unit, myself included, should have remained customers!  My recruiter was after the car and was signing everyone as PU then pushing inventory.

    • That’s typical Tam. I remember a friend of mine who was being pushed to directorship asking her director why she should recruit a customer, who was paying up to 50% profit on product, to become a consultant. The friend would only make a fraction of the percentage off the person if she were a consultant rather than a customer.

  8. Tam, very true!  I was in MK for 8.5 years and always the SD’s wanted you to recruit your best customers under the premise that they could get their products for 1/2 price.
    To be honest I probably used $750-1000 in wholesale myself on a yearly basis, because I used everything.  But that can work against you too!  Many make the mistake of not paying themselves for product taken off their own shelves.  When you purchase on credit cards, that can quickly eat up your “profits” and next thing you know you have a credit card bill monthly that you can’t pay off.

  9. I have been a consultant for three years and I have several loyal customers.  I really drank the koolaid to begin with but then started really listening and observing.  If you are in a SD position you make a pretty decent living but anything under that you really have scramble and convince and sometimes connive to make production every month.  And a free car is a joke because your unit has to make at least $4000 production every month for you to keep the car or the cash.  So it is not free.  I have watched my Director nearly have a nervous break down just trying to keep her unit afloat.  It is fine if you want to do it that way.  My problem lies with recruiting and not totally telling people  just exactly what all it entails.  I can’t do it because I am too honest.  I absolutely love the product and will remain a consultant because I believe in it.  I honestly think Mary Kay Ash would be turning over in her grave right now if she knew what a lot of the women climbing to the top do to get there.  It is why so many woman fall by the way side or feel like they have had bad experience.  When I first got into it I thought it was a wonderful woman’s organization and there was no back stabbing, dishonesty etc. that can go on in any group.  But I saw and heard things in the past 3 years that have really broken my heart.  I have a hard time even talking to my S SD because she proved to be all about the women as long as they were ordering and recruiting but would not even look at a woman who might not have had a good week or month.  It is all so fake.  So if you can look at your relative or best friend or stranger and ice the cake and not let them know what the cake is truly made of then this is really for you.  But if you care about those people and will tell them just exactly what it takes to make the kind of money they are talking about and they still want to do it, then it is a good thing and a top of the line product.

    • Pattie – I have been a consultant for 4 years, and I too drank the kool aid for the first 2.  I even made queen’s court of sales one year.  Great experience, but I came home and hit a wall.  I felt like I had spent too much money to get there.  Don’t get me wrong, I worked my butt off.  I did 3 classes in one day several times and have some really awesome, loyal customers, but I just couldn’t do the meetings, bridal shows, recruiting, etc anymore.  It didn’t feel good in my gut.  I tried to feel the way all of the other Mary Kay people felt, but I just couldn’t.  I was tired of getting the guilt trip and my SD telling me that being away from my 2 little kids would “be better for them in the long run.”  I still sell and am very loyal to using the products myself, but no more offering “free facials, raffle baskets or pictures for my portfolio.” 

  10. cricee72 says:

    I also used to think, “What would Mary Kay think about all this?”  Do your research on her, she was the sharpest tool in the shed…she was married more than the times she exposes in the books…she would use lies and manipulation to have parties and recruit…oh yes, she knew what she was doing and created and empire doing it.  Smart lady, just not as “pure” as people would like her to have been.

  11. lisa brown says:

    this company does not proctice Christian values at all, and yes, it WILL fall…you can’t continue to use God’s name in your business and practice dishonesty…God will not bless that

  12. The company is just a company. It really isn’t ran any different or less fair then any other company out there. I’ve worked in retail since I was 19 for a few different companies and so has most my family and husband- so I have a pretty good idea of what is normal in retail and the actual mk company isn’t exceptional or dishonest from everything I’ve read- they are just a company. As for practicing Christian values, well there’s a difference between the company and the consultants. Consultants are just people and it seems like many (which considering our country now a days and the ethics the general population seems to display this is not surprising)  many are short sighted and in this for personal gain no matter who they hurt. Instead of being smart and building a lasting client base and helping their recruits do the same they are in it for them moment, which obviously is going to cause heartbreak in the future. Is this the company’s fault? Perhaps by default of existing but not directly. No more then it’s any other company’s fault as a whole you got a crappy manager to deal with.

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