Comments on: True or False: It only costs $100 to join Mary Kay http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/ Guiding Women Through the Pink Fog Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:50:20 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Tam http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-3/#comment-4069 Tam Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:40:11 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-4069 Quoting MK slacker "<em>GOD, Family Career just that statement says it all. Im 24 and  i have met some wonderful christian ladies in mk, its never the church thats bad its the people in it. Lipstick just seems like a str8 hater." </em>How wonderfully Christian of you to Judge so quickly!  Very GO GIVE!  You will not meet a more wonderful Christian lady than Lipstick!  We are stating our experience in MK, if it doesn't parallel yours, then be thankful.  My NSD wanted me to re-schedule my only child's birthday party because it clashed with an event she had planned!  Sitting in Church does not mean people are Christians any more than standing in your garage makes you a car! Quoting MK slacker “GOD, Family Career just that statement says it all. Im 24 and  i have met some wonderful christian ladies in mk, its never the church thats bad its the people in it. Lipstick just seems like a str8 hater.”

How wonderfully Christian of you to Judge so quickly!  Very GO GIVE! 

You will not meet a more wonderful Christian lady than Lipstick!  We are stating our experience in MK, if it doesn’t parallel yours, then be thankful. 

My NSD wanted me to re-schedule my only child’s birthday party because it clashed with an event she had planned!  Sitting in Church does not mean people are Christians any more than standing in your garage makes you a car!

]]> By: Lipstick http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-3/#comment-4067 Lipstick Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:41:37 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-4067 mkSlacker, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of my feelings.  there is no hatred in this body,  i speak simply from the truth of my 8.5 yrs of experience in MK.  Your experience may have been different from mine, but mine is just as valid as yours. Your response and judgment of me is typical MK speak, anyone who doesn't agree with MK's manufactured picture of all roses,  pink stars and dreams is an automatic LOSER who failed to work their business and treat it as a business. I would invite you to read more on the front page and realize that I am not the only one who had these experiences and the overwhelming majority of posters here had a "negative" experience.  Then enter the forum by clicking on the FORUM button in the tan toolbar at the top of this page and read more. One more comment, you compared negative comments about MK to having a bad experience at McDonald's and judging all McDonald's to be the same. We are not talking 1 negative experience, we are talking many negative experiences  Just read a bit more to get a full picture.  I once looked through those same "rose colored" glasses you are wearing for a total of 8.5 years.  I worked my business and believed I too could be one of those who worked over, under, around and through all those obstacles to be a MK SD...sadly only 2% of women in MK ever achieve SD status and their income is hardly 6 figures after expenses are deducted. As they say in MK the numbers don't lie.  Please pay particular attention to the rules of the MK program or you may be stuck with a co-payment for that car that isn't really yours.  It is incredibly hard to keep all those recruits active and make your required minimums at the same time.  Good luck to you.   mkSlacker, I respectfully disagree with your assessment of my feelings.  there is no hatred in this body,  i speak simply from the truth of my 8.5 yrs of experience in MK.  Your experience may have been different from mine, but mine is just as valid as yours.
Your response and judgment of me is typical MK speak, anyone who doesn’t agree with MK’s manufactured picture of all roses,  pink stars and dreams is an automatic LOSER who failed to work their business and treat it as a business.
I would invite you to read more on the front page and realize that I am not the only one who had these experiences and the overwhelming majority of posters here had a “negative” experience.  Then enter the forum by clicking on the FORUM button in the tan toolbar at the top of this page and read more.
One more comment, you compared negative comments about MK to having a bad experience at McDonald’s and judging all McDonald’s to be the same. We are not talking 1 negative experience, we are talking many negative experiences  Just read a bit more to get a full picture.  I once looked through those same “rose colored” glasses you are wearing for a total of 8.5 years.  I worked my business and believed I too could be one of those who worked over, under, around and through all those obstacles to be a MK SD…sadly only 2% of women in MK ever achieve SD status and their income is hardly 6 figures after expenses are deducted.
As they say in MK the numbers don’t lie.  Please pay particular attention to the rules of the MK program or you may be stuck with a co-payment for that car that isn’t really yours.  It is incredibly hard to keep all those recruits active and make your required minimums at the same time.  Good luck to you.
 

]]> By: Mk slacker http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-3/#comment-4066 Mk slacker Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:45:24 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-4066 I have been in Mk for years and i Love it..... Lol i am very far from being successful in my buisness  but i know it is because of my own faults. I read August story and for her to WARN women of MaryKar is just pure ignorance. ( Its like going to your local McDonalds having a bad experience and saying that all McDonalds are horrible :) lol in most cases they are.)  Lol, Not all MEN are dogs and not all MK directors are angels (like mine) Warn women abt making wiser choices and knowing their limits, im sure if you told ur director there was no way in this world were you going to spend that much money on something you wasnt sure was going to work she would have found other options. Unfortuantely not all directors are as honest as they should be. My director however,  gave me her own personal samples and books to get enough money to place my first order. Since then she has never forced me to do anything..........From attending God knows how many events, I know that your success in the buisness depends on you. Mk is not for everybody. As far as the history and the beliefs that MK has they are truly the best. GOD, Family Career just that statement says it all. Im 24 and  i have met some wonderful christian ladies in mk, its never the church thats bad its the people in it. Lipstick just seems like a str8 hater. So many women fail in this buisness cause they see it as a way to end all finicial problems by selling LIPSTICK. Its the oppurtunity of a lifetime for a WOMAN who has a VISION and DRIVE to get there. lol i got my vision just need the car. I have been in Mk for years and i Love it….. Lol i am very far from being successful in my buisness  but i know it is because of my own faults. I read August story and for her to WARN women of MaryKar is just pure ignorance.
( Its like going to your local McDonalds having a bad experience and saying that all McDonalds are horrible :) lol in most cases they are.)  Lol, Not all MEN are dogs and not all MK directors are angels (like mine) Warn women abt making wiser choices and knowing their limits, im sure if you told ur director there was no way in this world were you going to spend that much money on something you wasnt sure was going to work she would have found other options. Unfortuantely not all directors are as honest as they should be. My director however,  gave me her own personal samples and books to get enough money to place my first order. Since then she has never forced me to do anything……….From attending God knows how many events, I know that your success in the buisness depends on you. Mk is not for everybody. As far as the history and the beliefs that MK has they are truly the best. GOD, Family Career just that statement says it all. Im 24 and  i have met some wonderful christian ladies in mk, its never the church thats bad its the people in it. Lipstick just seems like a str8 hater. So many women fail in this buisness cause they see it as a way to end all finicial problems by selling LIPSTICK. Its the oppurtunity of a lifetime for a WOMAN who has a VISION and DRIVE to get there. lol i got my vision just need the car.

]]> By: Nick http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-3/#comment-4057 Nick Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:10:12 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-4057 As a 45-year old man who joined Avon, I'm glad I made the choice I did. For $10, I got my starter supplies and was in business for myself. If I never placed another order, it would have been no big deal. I actually have a downline rep who ordered 2 bottles of Skin So Soft and never ordered again. For me, Avon's been fantastic. I've sold over $10,200 worth of products in less than the first 5 months of joining. Seem's like MK and Avon are vastly different in their treatment of reps. As a 45-year old man who joined Avon, I’m glad I made the choice I did. For $10, I got my starter supplies and was in business for myself. If I never placed another order, it would have been no big deal. I actually have a downline rep who ordered 2 bottles of Skin So Soft and never ordered again.
For me, Avon’s been fantastic. I’ve sold over $10,200 worth of products in less than the first 5 months of joining. Seem’s like MK and Avon are vastly different in their treatment of reps.

]]> By: veep http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-3/#comment-3992 veep Sat, 26 Sep 2009 04:33:33 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-3992 wow lipstick, you must have had a really bad experience!! you seem to be on a mission here.  i still love my mk.  i have for 7 years and have had good and bad experiences but apparently nothing like what you seem to have had.  i hope you get past it, honestly. take care. wow lipstick, you must have had a really bad experience!! you seem to be on a mission here.  i still love my mk.  i have for 7 years and have had good and bad experiences but apparently nothing like what you seem to have had.  i hope you get past it, honestly. take care.

]]> By: Lipstick http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-2/#comment-3976 Lipstick Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:04:38 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-3976 Lorraine and Tracy, I respectfully disagree with your statements about unfortunate relationships through MK representatives, not Mary Kay in and of  itself). Since Mary Kay in and of itself restricts and controls every avenue of income and every way you can work your business and now have won a lawsuit against selling their product after a consultant has purchased and no longer is under consultant agreement, I believe MK Corp has a responsibility to monitor how these "representatives" represent MK Corp as they conduct business.  If MK Corp spent half the time monitoring those still under contract and less time monitoring those not in contract, maybe the company as a whole wold have a better reputation and those who act in dishonest and misleading ways would no longer be "misrepresenting" and tarnishing the MK image. IMO, I say truly if it doesn't affect MK Corp income they really could  care less how active representatives misrepresent or dishonestly entice others to buy huge amounts of inventory and whether representatives can "'sell" the product.       Lorraine and Tracy, I respectfully disagree with your statements about unfortunate relationships through MK representatives, not Mary Kay in and of  itself).
Since Mary Kay in and of itself restricts and controls every avenue of income and every way you can work your business and now have won a lawsuit against selling their product after a consultant has purchased and no longer is under consultant agreement, I believe MK Corp has a responsibility to monitor how these “representatives” represent MK Corp as they conduct business.  If MK Corp spent half the time monitoring those still under contract and less time monitoring those not in contract, maybe the company as a whole wold have a better reputation and those who act in dishonest and misleading ways would no longer be “misrepresenting” and tarnishing the MK image.
IMO, I say truly if it doesn’t affect MK Corp income they really could  care less how active representatives misrepresent or dishonestly entice others to buy huge amounts of inventory and whether representatives can “’sell” the product.
 
 
 

]]> By: Tracy http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-2/#comment-3975 Tracy Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:13:11 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-3975 I agree with you Lorraine... unfortunate relationships thru Mary Kay representatives (NOT MARY KAY in and of itself) is the problem.   I agree with you Lorraine… unfortunate relationships thru Mary Kay representatives (NOT MARY KAY in and of itself) is the problem.
 

]]> By: Tracy http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-2/#comment-3974 Tracy Mon, 21 Sep 2009 04:07:24 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-3974 Pessimists and Optimists........... thats the major differences in these comments...     Pessimists and Optimists……….. thats the major differences in these comments…
 
 

]]> By: Lorraine C Van Ryckeghem http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-2/#comment-3893 Lorraine C Van Ryckeghem Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:02:59 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-3893 Hello Girls,I just want to say that it seems that everyone was taken by people who use people,not how M.K.works.If you start out small and work your way up,it can happen.I was successful in M.K. until the fire,don't let people take advantage of you in anyway.People will take advantage of you if you let them,learn from your mistakes like I have.I feel sorry for all of you,its not fair for people to use you like that.You know what? My inventory had no insurance,that was stupid huh!I know everyone is against M.K. but it is not M.K.,it is people who give you a bad time.I stumbled on this site to let people know there is life after the ashes,my house fire,but it is so sad to hear all the stories how people have been taken advantage of.M.K. is helping people not using them and helping women make extra money for there family,I never started with a huge inventory to sell,that was to scary for me,but I have to say I have made a Lot of money even when I had no money. Sorry Girls,I Really Am! Lori Van R-Powerpink Hello Girls,I just want to say that it seems that everyone was taken by people who use people,not how M.K.works.If you start out small and work your way up,it can happen.I was successful in M.K. until the fire,don’t let people take advantage of you in anyway.People will take advantage of you if you let them,learn from your mistakes like I have.I feel sorry for all of you,its not fair for people to use you like that.You know what? My inventory had no insurance,that was stupid huh!I know everyone is against M.K. but it is not M.K.,it is people who give you a bad time.I stumbled on this site to let people know there is life after the ashes,my house fire,but it is so sad to hear all the stories how people have been taken advantage of.M.K. is helping people not using them and helping women make extra money for there family,I never started with a huge inventory to sell,that was to scary for me,but I have to say I have made a Lot of money even when I had no money. Sorry Girls,I Really Am! Lori Van R-Powerpink

]]> By: Lipstick http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/09/true-or-false-it-only-costs-100-to-join-mary-kay/comment-page-2/#comment-3892 Lipstick Mon, 07 Sep 2009 17:28:11 +0000 http://www.pinklighthouse.com/?p=182#comment-3892 August, please click on the link above to get information on returning your inventory.  You can return all of your section 1 items purchased in the past year to MK Inc for a 90% buy back, refund of the sales tax.  That will at least help you recoup most of your money.  Try having a 40% of sale first to offset some of your costs. You can sell section 2 on this website to others who are still in MK. You can't recoup your time lost, but get what you can money wise and get that credit card debt monkey of your back!  You'll also find lots of support inside the Forum from those who have been where you are. Lots of luck to you and good for you for getting out before you got nto more debt than you are in!  (((HUGS))) August, please click on the link above to get information on returning your inventory.  You can return all of your section 1 items purchased in the past year to MK Inc for a 90% buy back, refund of the sales tax.  That will at least help you recoup most of your money.  Try having a 40% of sale first to offset some of your costs.
You can sell section 2 on this website to others who are still in MK.
You can’t recoup your time lost, but get what you can money wise and get that credit card debt monkey of your back!  You’ll also find lots of support inside the Forum from those who have been where you are.
Lots of luck to you and good for you for getting out before you got nto more debt than you are in!  (((HUGS)))

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