Rachel’s Getting Ready To Do a Facial, But Took Time Out To Tell Us How Wonderful MK Is
Your Name: Rachel
Date Joined MK : 04/28/2008
When Left MK or Still Active?: Still Active
Initial Inventory Purchased: $200.00
How were you recruited?:
Asked to have a facial, loved the products and asked to have an interview and thought it would be right for me.
Memorable experience you had in MK:
First seminar just past July, It was so well put together and it was just a real eye opener about how you can make this business work for you!
What did you learn from MK?:
Being a Mary Kay Consultant is a great way to meet new people and help out women all over.
What are you doing now? :
Getting ready for a Facial.
Additional Comments:
I love my Mary Kay business! If you do it correctly it can give you wonderful things!


I would like to hear from Rachel what the correct way is, since I was told that I could “work my business” however I wanted to and that there was not right or wrong way. But if there is a way to work it “correctly” please share that. Also please tell us what are the “wonderful things” that it can give, specifically in terms of REAL MONEY? Not prizes, not meeting people, or recognition as neither of those things can pay the bills. I think I already know what you are going to say, but I would just like confirmation to see how it compares with what I already know for myself about how MK really works. Get back to us please.
Sounds like MK corp refilled your brain with images of unattainable pink while you were at scaminar…..but yes, please tell me the “correct” way to run a MK business! I’d love to hear where I supposedly went wrong!
I’m waiting with My Beauty and Sassy to find out the correct way. Please tell us what all of us did wrong!
And please tell us how much money you are making doing it the “correct way”
Oh yeah, I loved doing facials too…only my first skincare “party”, twenty women said they were going to show up and only one came…that was the first disappointment in MK and not the last.
Sure it’s fun and quite exciting in the beginning. And if you can afford it hey, go for it. It is an expensive club to be a member of. You’ll see in time. But you may have to work another J.O.B. to support your MK fix!! Have fun…………Hugs
I like how directors hold “interviews” like not everyone can be hired or that company actually PAYS you to do this. lol I just find it amusing.
you go Rachel. Have fun with your Mary Kay business. I know you can make out of it what you want. It does take some work and if you are willing you will go far.
I just came to this site to look around. No affiliations. But, can’t anyone find flaws with any job or company? Why are people so consumed with proving Mary Kay is bad? Again, anyone can sit here and bash any company if they feel strongly enough.
Louise, sure there are problems with most companies and if you look hard enough you can find something to complain about. YOu don’t usually go bankrupt when you workl for a lefitimate business. What MK does is misrepresent the potential income, lie about the facts presented and lead people into the pink pit called MK. All we want to do is present the truth from many many women who lived it! If we save just one from going into debt, it is worth it.
Louise, another thing to keep in mind is that much larger comanies than MK don’t have whole sites full of disgruntled ex-staffers. I know of no other business or MLM that inspires such hatred.
You said that anyone can bash a company if they feel strongly enough, and you’re right. But it’s only MK that inspires people negatively to such an extreme.
If Mary Kay is so horrible then why are there so many willing to go for it? All Businesses require investment, time, and dedication to work it. No one that I am aware of has had a gun held to their head and told sign here. Either you wanted to take the same risk you run with ANY business you start or you don’t. If my business doesn’t do well, it is because I didn’t work it. It is easy to point a finger elsewhere with out acknowledging that you have 3 more pointed back at yourself (3 of which happen to be attached to your own hand). I still say that all companies are MLM to some degree. How many top executives get paid the big bucks and keep everyone else sitting at the bottom of the financial food chain? I don’t see any top Exectutives getting laid off or taking a pay cuts during this tough economy. In the case of disgruntled ex-staffers, the reason you don’t see sites like this one for the other companies is because they just haven’t vocalized it for fear of being let go for their opinions of the companies they work for. I don’t have that fear. I won’t be firing myself anytime soon. Good luck with ridding yourselves of all the anger issues surrounding your Mary Kay Business. Perhaps your attitudes had something to do with the business failing. Good luck and God Bless.
I like MK…it is amazing how you can see our finger pointing, but not your own! I have nothing else to say about your brain washed drivel, just know that if you find yourself in the position that many of us found ourselves in, deep in pink debt and covered up with inventory that won’t sell, you can still come back and we will welcome you with open arms and lift you up until you can do it again for yourself!
Do yourself a favor and read more about our experiences, it may save you from some heartache and debt. Good luck to you… I hope you see the REAL MK before it destroys your credit or your marriage.
I still say that all companies are MLM to some degree.
Well, as long as we all know where you stand. Nevermind that the companies themselves disagree. The various government branches responsible for overseeing, licensing and taxing the businesses don’t agree, and business analysts and actuaries don’t agree. Apparently they’re all missing something you have discovered.
I don’t see any top Exectutives getting laid off or taking a pay cuts during this tough economy.
Somehow despite your vast business acumen you have somehow never heard of Ford or Hewlett Packard, both companies execs are taking pay cuts. Maybe you should research prior to making blanket statements like that.
they just haven’t vocalized it for fear of being let go for their opinions of the companies they work for
If I understand you correctly, ANONYMOUS online posters are all afraid of retribution?
Wow. Looks like your logical reasoning skills are second only to your research. Congratulations! You’ve convinced us!
When you pull your head out of your ass and gain the ability to have a logical, reasonable conversation come on back. Until then, try to lay off the thinking. You’ve proven that it’s too much for you to handle.
Because there are some high-pressure recruiting tactics used that make people second-guess their gut instinct. Then again, many women believe the things they are told about the average sales and how it only takes 2 hours to hold appointments, etc etc etc
Mary Kay isn’t “your business.”
Thanks for your angry post Stacy. And I can see that you ARE working very hard at MK, since you have time to come tell us all off instead of making those sales calls.
So : “What is the cost of the MK dream?”
People like Wanda, I like MK, and Louse just repeat word for word what their SD tells them in their “success” meetings. The question they should be asking is who’s success does my SD want hers or mine? Now I don’t mean to be offensive to those on this board who were SD’s with integrity, but we know that most of those in SD positions or higher are all about keeping or increasing thier status.
I know most of these pro-MKers are just not seeing the real picture and the real danger, and that is what happened to me. I sent 8.5 years chasing the dream and racking up credit card debt, not just for product but all the other stuff, CC, Seminar, MK events, GWP, PCP and Hostess and gifts for “guests”, better know as “potential recruits”.
On the flip side, many do not know how much the expenses increase when you become a SD or higher. Now you have the same expenses only add rental of your traiing center, furnishings for your training center, utilities for your training center, gifts as incentives to place orders, pins, ribbons, and other paraphenalia.
The costs just keep adding up and before you know it your profit is gone! So very sad!
I “DECIDED” to become a part of Mary Kay in August of 1994. I became a Director in September of 1995. Won my 1st of 4 Cadillacs in March of 1996. Was Head of My Class and #1 in the Nation out of my debuting class of Directors. Was in the Circle of Achievement for 4 consequtive years. Had 3 Offspring Directors, 2, 2nd Line Directors (one of which was a Cadillac Director and in the Half Million Dollar Circle of Excellence her 1st year as a Director, as well as her 1st year in the business.
With all due respect, the website and chat room, is a haven to support mediocrity and to have a place where others will support the old “whoa is me” sob story.
Instead of bashing Mary Kay, your director, inventory or whatever else you want to bash or blame, why not just say: it wasn’t for me because I wasn’t willing to work that hard.
I worked my Mary Kay Business with passion, determination and with a desire to win, all while working full-time (50-60 hours per week) at Merrill Lynch. By the time I quit my job at Merrill Lynch, I was already making $6,000+ as a director with MK.
I was diagnosed with presumptive MS in 1997 and worked and maintained Cadillac status until 2006. Once it became too difficult for me to be “Effective” as a Leader, I made the decision to resign my position. I mean I could barely walk, my speech & ability to write were impaired, I had fallen about 500 times, moved to a new city, 1,100 miles away from my family (as a single woman) and no friends and rebuilt my area from not even meeting minimum production. I wanted success & I wanted it bad enough to work through pain, frustration and adversity.
Bottom line: My initial investment: $1,800…EVERY decision I made was MY decesion. No one forced me to work hard. No one forced me to re-invest. No one forced me to recruit. No one made me do anything I wasn’t willing to do or wanted to do based on what I wanted to achieve. Anybody that becomes a part of MK or any Network Marketing Company for that matter, has the SAME EXACT possibilities as anyone else.
Please stop enabling each other to be losers and play the blame game. Take responsibility for your own actions. Be grown up about it and just say: “I wasn’t willing to work that hard.”
Sarah Daniel
Very good Sarah. I am so glad that you are proud of your acheivements. I just hope that when all of that comes crashing down, and it will, that you will come back here and learn what you haven’t learned yet. I also hope that you don’t have that “it’s my business mentality”. It isn’t. Mary Kay can snatch it away fast and what will you have left. What you are doing is repeating the lies that you were encouraged to recruit with in your training. So, you may think that you are doing right, but you aren’t. We are all very successful women and we saw through that “facade” soon enough. So, before you come here and bash us, know that we have heard it all before. You don’t know us and we don’t know you. So before you judge us take the time to get to know us. It irritates me that we hear the same old story over and over again especially when you go on the rampage that you just went on. You do you and we will do us.
Everyone here is so negative… I agree with Sarah, Rachel, and Louise. No one did force you to join. And before you start up any company you should know what you are getting into. I am looking in to starting a Mary Kay business. But before I am doing this I am looking and researching everything!!!! I would like to know about the complaints people have and the accomplishments. I will write up a business plan for myself as the best way to go into this. I will know what I CAN put into this business and what I can take out of it. I ALONE know how much money I can put into this business and how much time I can devote to it. Only YOU know how much money you can spend and put into your business. You did not have to purchse 1800 worth of product, nobody forced you. It like with the housing market today. A married couple making 50,000 a year trying to afford a 250,000 dollar mortgage and 3500 $ monthly payment. KNOWING that they are not able to afford it. You are the ones that got yourself into that debt nobdy else did…. With starting any small business you need to research the web, make a plan, make a budget. Stop being to negative and mean to the people that actually enjoy it. Do not belittle them just because you had a bad experience. WE ARE ALL TRYING TO MAKE SOMETHING OUT OF OURSELVES (and of course make money) AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER NOT BELITTLE ONE ANOTHER ON THEIR SUCCESS…
If we are so negative then why are you here? No one forced you to come here and leave a message. We are real. We don’t sugar coat anything. It isn’t your business. If it was your business you would be able to do what you want when you want to. Mary Kay is your business plan because you don not own your business. Mary Kay does and they can snatch it away very fast. You are a walking, talking SD. You should join the forum and learn what we are about. We are very successful women. We made it without “this business” as you call it. Goodluck in all that you do. You will need it.
No one in my area started Mary Kay as a “business” which is good, because it isn’t YOUR business. You run the business, according to the rules of MK, including where you can sell/advertise. You can’t sell the “business” and you don’t control everything about the business.
The crap that is told is just that, crap. “You can make an executive income working 8 – 10 hours per week”! “You can’t sell from an empty cart” and the umpteen hundred other lines.
If you like Mary Kay good for you! If you are good at it, wonderful. But if you are looking to go into it under the “It only costs $ 100 to join” and now, “you will get your $ 100 back in the form of a rebate” and “you make 50% of all you sell”, then you had better know what you are getting into.
We tell the TRUTH, as it was for us. Yes, a lot of it is negative – and OMG, someone saying something negative is a NO-NO at a MK meeting! The product DOES NOT fly off the shelves and purchasing inventory for non-existent customers by an inexperienced IBC is ridiculous!
We have all been there, done that, thank you. We are over it and trying to help others not to get in the same position!
Dear everyone’s so negative and mean,
If you’re here to investigate why don’t you care about all the “red flags” on this site? Investigation happens with eyes wide open, and wondering how so many women could have had such bad experiences if MK is such a great opportunity.
We are supporting you, by warning you of the pitfalls of MK! Good luck, I hope you sell better than you investigate!
It sounds to me like you already bought the Starter Kit and now you are lving the Mk “dream”…sorry “nightmare” and try ing to justify why you didn’t investigate more.
If you haven’t already joined and you are truly investigating, than read and listen, because nobody’s twisting your arm and making you join MK are they?
Listen to Sassy and Tam. You will not own your own business. MK controls every avenue of how you sell, where you sell, how you advertise, and where you get your supplies from. MK is the only one making any money on a regular basis. Ask yourself why so many women join and then get out?
Don’t be silly and believe everything they tell you…use YOUR brain and make YOUR decision based on what’s the best for YOU!
I would like to know about the complaints people have and the accomplishments.
Yet when told the complaints you can’t handle it and start whining.
I get the fact that it’s easy to be an expert on something YOU’VE NEVER DONE. You’re one of those people who has never had kids but tells others the best way to raise theirs. Never been in a serious relationship but constantly know what need to be changed in others.
Have fun with your MK career. Come on back when you actually have some experience to back up what you think/say/lecture us condescendingly on.
Everyone’s so mean and negative…here are some common complaints about MK:
- SD’s encourage you to purchase an inventory package before you even have customers and know what they will order
- MK changes product lines, compacts, packaging, frequently so you are constantly having to purchase more product ot keep your shelves stocked with the “new”. Your SD and her upline know in advance, but they do not tell you, because you might not order and they might not make production
- MK doesn’t feature the old product in their catalogs, hence nobody knows you have it
- There are no samples for Limited Edition, therefore you must buy the full size product just to demo and show
- Every 3 months the Limited Edition items change, the older ones no longer appear in the catalogs
- the prizes and incentives are cheap…save yourself heartache and treat yourself to something nice and skip the MK prizes
- the product doesn’t sell unless you discount it or give a gift (which you purchase from MK) with purchase. These costs reduce your “profit”
- you only get commisions in the months where your recruits and you are both active
4% of a $200 wholesale order is only $8…that won’t buy you lunch!
- MK does not give away cars, they have a lease car program and if you earn the right to have a lease car by meeting certain production minimums for your and your team, they pay the lease, if not, you pay (at a much higher rate than you could have leased the car yourself)
- Every event you attend in MK, including the sales meetings costs you. there is no free training
Is that enough COMPLAINTS for you?
Wow! You ladies are incredible. I appreciate your well wishes for me in my situation, but I assure you that no matter the challenges I face, I in NO WAY have a disability. Instead this condition has given me the “Ability” to empower others and give them permission (by example) to live beyond difficulty and adversity.
I didn’t nor do I need Merril Lynch, their benefits, retirement, healthcare, sick pay, vacation time or Social Security, Based upon the effort I put into the Mary Kay business that I built, I was able to put away a very sizable nest egg as well as afford my own benefits, take all the paid sick time when I needed to and took vacation on my own time and did for literally 2 years without missing a beat. By the way, if I had stayed at Merrill Lynch there is no way that I would have been able to maintain a 60-80 hour work week under extremely stressful work conditions in my situation. I watched them fire people for having migraines, so I would have really been in the cold.
I took full advantage of every opportunity Mary Kay offered to me. The training & journey to my personal best was worth every dollar spent, every frustration faced, and every minute I spent building my organization. It gave me the necessary mindset needed to deal with what I deal with everyday. It gave me the platform in which to build my now $250,000+ a year consulting firm. Luck had nothing to do with my success. I took care of business and worked it! When I couldn’t work it, my business took care of me. Tam, MK did work for me, I resigned because I could not effectively, to my standard, support the women in my organization. MY CHOICE!
BC, YOU ARE TOO MANY THINGS! I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT. ATTEMPT TO MASK WHAT? YOU & LIPSTICK ARE TWO PEAS IN A POD…BEWARE EVERYBODY:-)
No where in my statement did you read a victim, blame it on someone else story. I’m the one that advised you all to take personal responsibility for the “choices” you made! I walk and live fabulously in my situation no matter how difficult, high heels and all. Hide behind? Baby Please! I still walk with pride, without assistance or a wheel chair, even though literally each step could be my last! Yes, it’s that critical! I don’t need or want to hide behind a situation that has brought so much power & possibility, through the pain. Anyway, I wish you all the best!
Sarah,
Since you are so”all around wonderful” and don’t need our well wishes and concern for you or your welfare I’ll just be “mean and nasty”.
It’s considered rude to post the exact same post in more than one place in a forum and you seem to have a habit of copying and pasting your posts all over the board, whether it is relevant to the subject or not.
Knowing what I do abou MS it would seem unwise to wear heels since the symptoms include numbness especially in the lower extremities and often causes an unsteady gait.
My best guess is that you may or may not have been in MK, worked for Merril Lynch own your own business or even have MS. I suspect you’re just a troll looking for little fun or trying to cause trouble.
I think the only mindset you have is a tendency to “porcupine fever”, which means you practice “sticking it to others before they can stick it to you”. I’m sorry you didn’t appreciate our sincere concern for you. Have a great day!
Once again, all you guys do is bi*ch and moan and bi*ch some more. You just need somewhere to complain and put people down b/c you guys got burned. Well suck it up! Once again nobody MADE or FORCED you to start up Mary Kay, you did that ALL ON YOUR OWN. GOT IN CREDIT CARD DEBT ALL ON YOUR OWN. Quit being so damn negative and MOVE ON!!!
** I have kids of my own and will never tell someone how to raise their children or how someone should act in a relationship. everyone makes their own choices no matter how much they get hurt or if it turns out great. You live and learn by your mistakes.
** FYI…I have not bought a starterkit and do not plan to. After my “poor” investigating told me it was not right for me…. I made that CHOICE all on my own.
So for everyone, quit being so negative, you guys made a mistake, learn from it and move on, quit blaming everyone else. Quit living in the past…. Look at the future and all it has to offer…
And all you do, ESNAM, is come on boards and bitch and complain about others. If you don’t like it, leave.
We don’t need your permission, nor are we your children you can tell what to do.
If you’re half as ridiculous in real life as you are here I’m amazed your children haven’t put themselves on milk cartons.
You have NO CLUE what you’re talking about. Like I said before, it’s easy for you to sit behind your monitor and lecture others on how they should behave in a situation YOU’VE NEVER BEEN IN.
Apparently you have so little to do that you feel the need to come on here and judge us. Why don’t you go take care of your kids?
Sarah, thank you.
I consider it an honour to be compared to Lipstick. I doubt anyone would say the same about being compared to you.
I can’t help but notice that while claiming NOT to play the victim you can’t help but bring out that every step could be your last. Real convincing. When you talk like that in real life I hope it’s with a theatrical sigh, the back of your palm to your forehead while you sway convincingly. That’s exactly how it comes across here.
YOU & LIPSTICK ARE TWO PEAS IN A POD…BEWARE EVERYBODY:-) posted by Sarah
I consider it an honour to be compared to Lipstick. – BC
BC…I’drather be compared to you than the “pink koolaid addicts”
Hmmm…two peas in a pod…I like green a lot better than “stinky pink”
Psssst….Sarah, there are more than two of us here! TeeHeeHee
ESNAM…you must have missed the reason for this site. We aren’t comlaining and we have moved on, the reason we take time to post here is so others can be saved from making the same mistakes. I hope the information you found while investigating came from a site like ours…there are many.
And by the way, shooting the messenger, because you don’t like the message is taking it out on the wrong party. Be thankful there are people who care enough to share their stories. No matter how negative it may seem to you, the TRUTH is the TRUTH. If you are able to get the message and heed the warnings then the outcome is positive, even if you don’t like the message.
It’s always better to tell it like it is and save a life, rather than candy coat it and let somebody take the poison! JMO
BC and Lippie! Well said ladies!
Keep up the good work informing others of the pitfalls of MK. What others choose to do with said information cannot be controlled….
There will always be the Rah, Rah pink lifers that come here complaining that all we do is bi*ch….so what? I’m so tired of it….obviously they are missing the whole point of this website. I NOT surprised….the pink fog runs thick in some homes!
Geez, people. This website isn’t attacking you personally. It’s not saying “everyone who loves mary kay is an idiot and their marriage is going to fall apart and they’re going to go into debt.” Nobody on this website is at all “mean,” and if they are “negative” it’s because they have had a bad experience and want to tell you about it. They want to WARN you. They want to HELP you. Whether or not you take their advice is up to you.
It’s not supposed to be an “us versus them” thing. It’s just people trying to help other people. It only becomes that way when you attack someone. Uh, yeah, they might not take that too well. So don’t bite the hand that’s at least offering to feed you.
I’m sorry Rachel, I don’t mean to sound rude, but that just makes me giggle! Did I sound like that when I was in MK? OH BOY……………
I wonder if Rachel is still so happy with her MK?
sarasoda…nice of you to post also! We don’t get a lot of appreciation for warning people of the dangers of MK . It’s nice to hear from somebody who doesn’t think we are lazy losers, crying the blues because we didn’t work hard enough!
Someone FINALLY GETS IT! Thanks Sarasoda! Join us in the forum by clicking the forum button on the top of the page, left side! We chat about all kinds of things, family, current events, hobbies. Hope to see you there!
Im lost how is it MK fault if YOU were pressured into doing something and that YOU couldnt think for your self? it was YOUR choice to purchase huge inventory and get HUGE debt. NOT MK’s i think its lots of money to be made in MK. I do believe that some of the Directors are not in MK for the best reasons there fore they pressure to recruit or make huge purchases to fatten there pockets. when your feeling that type of pressure you speak to the person. Think about this How is she going to benefit you? she isnt!!! shes there to push you if you cant take it tell her. I have a wonderful director. I told her my limits and im doing fine. i started with $200 bucks in inventory. I dont know peoples individual situations on how there business failed but i simply wanted to leave my comment.
Quoting Cynthia, “Think about this How is she going to benefit you? she isnt!!!”
I’d say 26% commission IS BENEFITING her. JMO
Quoting Cynthia, “Think about this How is she going to benefit you? she isnt!!!”
Shes not benefiting me by trying to make me purchase something or get people to sign up! thats where you put your foot down.
My point its women who say oh i failed MK because i was tricked into buying a huge inventory or i felt pressured to get recruits. BE YOUR OWN PERSON! STand up for your self. Dont feel you have to do it anything. No where in the MK agreement do you see that you HAVE to purchase inventory. it is SUGGESTED! Seems like theres some hostility going on because your not making that 24%. But listen i have no hard feelings towards anyone. I just tired of the bashing. No im not siting in a “PINK” bubble im looking at reality.
Good for you Cynthia, I’m glad Mary Kay is working out for you for the time being. It’s really good that you’ve gone into it with the attitude that you have. You’re totally right, you and only you can make the decisions about how you’d like to run your business.
I read your post on one of the other articles here and saw that you are still brand new to Mary Kay. I remember how it was for me in the beginning and you sound a lot like I did. It really does seem like a wonderful opportunity and a great way to make some exta cash when you’re still dealing with all of the initial excitement that comes with doing something that you really like to do.
I’d just like to tell you that I’m not here because I’m pissed off that I bought inventory. I made that decision on my own and don’t blame anyone. I’m here because I believed that I would be able to make money doing Mary Kay. It didn’t take me very long to realize that the “opportunity” is very played up and over rated.
The reason why a lot of us here refer to some consultants as being in the “pink bubble” or “fog” is because they all honestly believe that they are going to eventually be making money working their businesses. They’ve been so hyped up by the Mary Kay psycho babble that they are willing to spend years absorbing all the hype, working their butts off to gain absolutely nothing. We don’t have a problem with them for that, we genuinely feel sorry for them because we were all there at one point. I would honestly bet money on the fact that not one of the consultants in your unit will turn a profit this year. Unless your Director is an NSD or something, I’d put money on it that she won’t be turning a profit either.
The business model of Mary Kay sets us up for failure. Basically, you’ll have a very hard time trying to bring in as much income as your neighborhood paper boy let alone making an executive income. But power to ya if you think that you’ll be the one to go the distance and be successful where hundreds of thousands of women have realized its a dead end opportunity (or in your words failed).
I sincerely hope things work out for you. Best of luck.
Trudie, I understand where you guys why your upset. im not here to bash i just wanted to speak a lil of my min. I take it as a stepping stone for me. i look at you alls stories and learn from them. Yes im new to Mary Kay i signed my agreement March of this yr. (2009) one of my good friends mom has been in Mary Kay for a few yrs now. She offered the “Opportunity” to me and i declined. over the years i spent my time researching pros and cons of MK, i been on all the anti mary kay sites and i made my mind up from there.
I personally believe there is money in MK. Thats my opinion. Its in sells. not recruiting. Plain and simple you sell you get money. thats how i look at it. Im not looking to get past the “Grand Achiever” status. thats my personal goal. 12 recruits 18k in 4 months is not bad. im not going to lie and decive to get there either. I personally believe there is no money in being a director. yea you get the fancy car and stuff but thats were the problems start and money goes poof… My friends mom makes enough profit from selling to pay her mortgage, bills around the house, food, clothes and extras for family vacations and stuff. She is driving the 1st MK car. and seems pleased at where she is. She doesnt go to Seminar (cept 1 time) and she goes to the weekly meetings maybe twice a month. She has a strong team of about 14 women and she only places orders when she needs them.
I ordered product on wednesday evening and it was on my door step by friday afternoon. So me having inventory is unnessary. Im again just trying to understand the other side. im not trying to stir any hard feelings or nothing i just want to set an example for my team when i grow one. i wont try and hide these sites from them. Im simply trying to see the other side.
Cynthia,
I sincerely wish you luck with MK. You would have to have ALL 14 ordering $ 250 EVERY month. Plus you ordering $ 1,000 per month.
Thanks for the well wishes Tam,
I took the time to read things before i just jumped up and wanted to be a GA. heres what i came up with for the GA program when i signed my agreement. Im simply breaking downthe figures.
You may qualify as a Grand Achiever in one, two, three or four months, based on when you achieve the following:
$18,000 combined personal/team wholesale Section 1 production. (12+me= 13. thats 1384.61 total divide that by 4.= 346.15 per person each month. Sounds realistic to me.)
12 active personal team members
You may contribute up to $4,000 in personal wholesale Section 1 production toward the total $18,000 requirement. (d0es not say i HAVE to contribute 1,000 a month)
Your team must contribute a minimum of $14,000 wholesale Section 1 production toward the total $18,000 requirement. ( thats $1166.66 each for 4 months making that 291.66 per month.) it does not state that they can not contribute more. if i have women on my team only selling 291.66 a month im asking myself whats the point in doing MK if your not trying to sell but thats my opinion)
You must have a minimum of $4,000 combined personal/team wholesale Section 1 production each month of the qualification period while maintaining five or more active personal team members. (thats where it gets tricky after you “qualify” say half drop out you can keep going as long as you have 5 or more on your team…. and yes i asked this question. now say if you were able to keep your 12 plus myself thats 307.69 minimum a month, but say if you only have 5 plus myself stakes get higher thats 666.66 minimum a month)
Just wanted to throw out some figures… i believe its not hard to get the 1st car… after that either you have a really good sells team to make it to ISD or your front loading. again i just want to share my thoughts on the matter.
Dear Everyones So Negative & Mean;
Sweetie, if I required immediate brain surgery and had to choose between a Dr. who did 12 yrs. higher education, internships out the wazoo, etc., etc., but had not done even one surgery, versus and old country Dr. who has done hundreds of brain surgeries but never got past the 8th grade – who do you think I’d go with? The country Dr., hands down.
In other words, take your ‘business plan’ and shove it! Hubby and I stepped out and started a constr. bus. No education, just guts and drive. It has been very successful for 30 years and counting. (neither one of us got past the 12th grade) I get a laugh at young college grads who come to us and expect us to hire them b/c they went to school and they have a plan make our business ‘work.’
Newsflash college/business plan idiot: give me an old boomer carpenter any day who will roll us his sleeves and do what it takes to get it done.
And btw, this is ‘our’ business. We advertise any which way we want. We will sell whenever and to whomever we choose.
I would suggest you step into the real world.
Dear Lippie;
On March 11th you said, “no one put a gun to your head and made you come to this site.”
Brilliant!
Let’s see…………hmmmmmmmmmmm………living the MK dream.
Sit on floor.
Open Starter Kit.
Dumpt Starter Kit over head.
Revel and play like a 3 yr. old in all those goodies.
Hope that tickles your fancy, cuz’ that’s the closest you’ll ever get to Nirvana in MK.
Admit it, as humans we love excess. When you buy your starter kit and then, heaven forbid, inventory, you get so excited to see all those lovely things filling your home. But it doesn’t take long for it to begin to ‘mold.’ Funny how today’s thrill becomes tomorrow’s vomit.
Dear Cynthia;
Shame on me for posting sonmany times in a row. Can’t help myself.
Posting figures to ‘educate’ us is a joke. Do you have ANY idea how many long-time directors are on this site. Car-driving directors?
Did you think you were ‘educating’ us?
nope i wasnt tring to “educate” you i recall saying i was just going over some figures for GA not ISD… but anyway everyone does whats best for them…
Rachel… please shoot me an email… *removed by admin*
I need your positive attitude! Please!
Quoting Cynthia,
“thats $1166.66 each for 4 months making that 291.66 per month.) it does not state that they can not contribute more. if i have women on my team only selling 291.66 a month im asking myself whats the point in doing MK if your not trying to sell but thats my opinion)”
I have a friend who’s been in MK 5 years, in DIQ too many times to count, a 2 X car driver, has had up to 20 team members. They will NOT all order EVERY month.
Plus, wouldn’t they need to sell $ 600 per month to make the estimated $ 300 month order? That’s selling an average of $ 150 per week or basically EVERY team member doing 1 SCC per week, every week. Never happened for me, but I wish you luck.