E.J.’s Mom is Making “literaly 8 times more money” in Mary Kay!
Your Name: E.J
Date Joined MK : 1-1-2000
When Left MK or Still Active?: Active
Initial Inventory Purchased: 600
How were you recruited?:
I was approched in a store
Memorable experience you had in MK:
My mother walking acrocss stage to pick up her pink , caddie and her being on our local news for acheiving this milestone.
What did you learn from MK?:
Family first, god second,and career 3rd
What are you doing now? :
Mary Kay.
Additional Comments:
Mary kay has changed my mothes life. she is making literaly 8 times more money, has earned a free car with insurance paid, since her first her of business and she has earned a brand new car every 2 years and in her 8 year of business she is now a pimk caddie driver breaing records in every day. In any business you put out only the effort you put in. We are working over here.
Lipstick on 
Ann on 
Brooke on 
Tam on 
E.J. Very happy to hear about your Mother’s successes…..I don’t however believe that it’s all been sunshine and roses….she’s had to have worked really hard at recruiting. Bet she’s very good at selling the dream.
You’ve said a lot about how well your Mother has done but you’ve failed to mention what level you have attained in the last eight years you have been active….I’m confused…..and I don’t get why your not touting your own horn?
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EJ, according to Mary Kay, the slogan goes “God first, family second, career third”. But that’s of no consequence since we all know that while they say “MK is meant to be sprinkled throughout your life”, MK marginalizes every other aspect of life if you’re running the pink hamster wheel.
PS, 8 times more money than what? A lemonade stand?
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Very glad to know that she is succeeding. My only problem with this article is the spelling and missing letters.
“What did you learn from MK?:
Family first, god second,and career 3rd”
You had to learn that? Dang, I’ll have to tell my mom that she was ahead of the class then…sorry…not trying to make fun of you or anything. I just find it funny that you you learned that from MK….sorry again..
Love and Peace
E_K
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“What did you learn from MK?:
Family first, god second,and career 3rd”
Well unfortunately you didn’t learn it correctly. Mary Kay teaches Faith first, Family second, and career Third.
But the reality is that MK is always supposed to come first. Mary Kay is your faith, family and career all rolled into one.
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EJ – I am wondering how many hours per week of actual working time is involved?
I also assume the “literaly 8 times more money” would be BEFORE expenses as well. And of course, the age old question, “What do the tax returns show?”
Not trying to be sarcastic, but seriously to make 8X’s an even minimum wage level job, would be astounding – somewhere in the $ 75,000 range! And this is AFTER all deductions and expenses?
That would have to put sales & commissions over $ 100,000 with minimal deductions and expenses.
Kudos to Mom if she is pulling this off!
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Dang, all of you just shut her down and opened up shop.
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To echo Rethinkingpink, please tell us what your mother is now making eight times more than. I think the average American earns around $35000 to $40000 per year, and that’s gross pay not net pay. So is she well in to six figures, yearly? Is she an NSD, because from what I can see, they are the only ones who may earn anything substantial. I don’t know. To quote Pres. G.W. Bush, something I never do, there is some “fuzzy math” going on in MK.
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From what I used to see at unit meetings, the “salary” comparison was always broken down to per hour earnings.
To compare MK hourly pay to a job is comparing apples to oranges, because in a job one is paid for her time.
So what if an IBC has a $200 class (2 hours of work according to the SD’s at the meeting) for a rate of $200 per hour?!
If that’s the only class that books and holds that week, then someone making $10 per hour (the oh-so-horrible alternative to MK) at a job where she is GUARANTEED 40 hours of work makes 2x more money that week.
I would love to see your mom’s schedule C, EJ!
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Correction: that would be $100 per hour after buying more inventory (wouldn’t want to embezzle, even though it’s impossible to embezzle from yourself!)
So the $10/hour for 40 hrs make 4x more!
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I have a REAL job that pays better than MK! I work no more than 4 hrs per day, driving a school bus.
I do no paper work, no phone calls, no inventory, my riders come to their bus stop, I don’t have to hunt for them at the mall and I honestly get paid $14.50 and hour with no fuzzy math!
I don’t work all summer, I get Spring Break off, 2 weeks at Christmas and when the weather is bad, I can stay home, guilt free, in my jammies and nobody expects me to make phone calls or call anybody!
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EJ I’m glad you are proud of your mother, but what are your successes? We would LOVE to hear about you!
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Lipstick, you crack me up “my riders come to their bus stop, I don’t have to hunt for them at the mall” LMAO
Also, your gas is paid for by the COMPANY, your vehicle is paid for BY THE COMPANY – NO CO-PAYS; and the insurance, upkeep, taxes and insurance, ALL paid for BY THE COMPANY!
Benefits – BY THE COMPANY (Sorry, those don’t exist in MK!)
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Lipstick, I like you! You are a hoot! The idea of having to hunt people down make a buck is just plain dumb. I complain about my job, but I’m thankful for it. I’m salaried, so I get paid whether my clients show up for appointments or not. Imagine that MK! I’m starting a new job soon where all of by benefits will be paid completely by my employer! You could sell a Miracle Set everyday and you still would not get a benefit like that from MK. Seriously MK ladies, get a real job, and stop trying to sell women this garbage that MK will set them free from the 9 to 5. No matter how you distort the figures, the average IBC or SD has no more money in there pocket than a regular working woman. Do some fact checking, see wikipedia.com and read the turnover rate among MK consulants.
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Well said, My Beauty. MK offers nothing close to those benefits until a person gets to the NSD level and they still need to keep on churning out Directors and recruiting or their incomes drop dramatically. these women are also away from home and living out of suitcases a lot.
MK sells the dream so well, some people begin to believe they are making executive incomes. They have heard the “fuzzy math” so many times they begin to see it as TRUTH instead of the exageration it really is.
But the Schedule C on your tax return never lies!
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My Beauty, do you post on the forum? We would love to see you over there!!!!!!
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Yes – My Beauty, join us in the forum! We have a blast!
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Come on inside My Beauty…we’d like to get to know you better and we talk about way more than MK. We have a lot of fun and MK really doesn’t come up in our conversations in the forum all that much unless our newbies ask for advice or ask questions and then we are not shy about sharing our experiences and the TRUTH!
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Thanks ladies, I will join you in the forum soon.
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Why are you all hating? It sounds to me that misery loves company.
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See now, Ingrid…that’s NOT nice and calling us all haters is rude! I knew you were in a pink fog and you’ve just provided the proof! You cannot see another point of view without us being all evil and negative!
Most people here try very hard to be respectful which can be hard when people have such opposite views and beliefs. You should try to do the same. I think your post is going to bring out the worst in some….hmmm perhaps that was your goal to serve your own need to know that we are negative people and that somehow makes it okay to dis us!
You are welcome here, but I am telling you that you must be respectful and play nice! NO name calling that is NOT tolerated!
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I can’t help to say that any positive thing said about mary kay gets bashed by lipstick, sassy and a few others that seem to have plenty of time on their hands to bash each post. You say “no name calling, play nice” meanwhile you should be taking your own advice. With all the time you have spent on here bad mouthing and negative posts, no wonder you crapped out on MK. I can imagine you thought working more than 20 hour a week is beneth you. I think its time you girls get away from the computer and go see the “reality” that you speak so much of. You say you work 4 hours a day making 14.50. You make under 20,000 annually… how can that be a “real job” as appose to one that made the top 500 million dollar annual income company or to any other job out there? There is constructive critizism and then there is your crazy posts. Can’t wait to see what angry post your going to put after reading this. God knows you have the time.
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Bora, I had a full time job in management working 60 hours a week and also worked my MK business for 8-1/2 years. I wasn’t lazy and working is not “beneath” me! I actually quit my full time management position to put more time into MK, so I took my current part time job as a school bus driver. This would pay me very well for 4 hrs work per day, give me Christmas, Spring Break and summer off when I could work my MK business even more.
I quit MK 1-1/2 years ago…because it simply was not paying me a fair wage for the amount of hours I was puttting into it! I am now semi-retired working as a school bus driver and I have lots of time to do things with my husband, my family, my friends and in my church.
I don’t bash others, I speak the truth about the “opportunity” in MK, something that very few still in the pink fog can do! You pro-MKers on the other hand do bash others, you cannot see beyond the scripts and lies that obscure the truth in MK to see that it is nothing more than a money pit and a time waster. Life is about so much more than MK and as long as you think there is any chance you can succeed in MK you will miss everything else life has to offer.
If you visit the FORUM. by clicking on the word FORUM in the black tool bar at the top of the page you will see that we talk about a lot more than MK. We discuss current events, our hobbies, cooking, fitness, health, our families, politics and there is even a spot for active MK consultants.
Many of us left MK with some degree of success as a SD, DIQ, Red Jacket, Team Leader, cadillac or car drivers. What we offer is the truth about MK and what is required to achieve any degree of success. We offer facts, not scripted answers and rah rah which is all you get in MK.
If you are armed with the truth you may avoid credit card debt, a ruined marriage, missing out on the best part of your children’ s lives, the loss of your best friends. Just be informed of how MK works, and how many people NEVER see the executive income that MK boasts so loudly about and how many stay in MK less than 1 year. If MK is such a wonderful opportunity, why are they leaving in droves?
I wish you luck and happiness in whatever you choose to do and that’s the truth. I wouldn’t waste my time warning others of the pitfalls of MK if they were made up. I’m not angry about MK, I got over that long ago, but I do care that others don’t know and won’t hear the truth in their MK meetings, so I am committed to helping to get the truth out and save others from some of the grief I have endured and the debt that I am still working to pay off!
I am waiting for your scripted response, in fact I know the scripts so well I could almost write your next post for you…but then I would be depriving you of the opportunity to bash me and others like me!
Bash away, I am strong, I can take anything you can dish out, because I no longer live in the pink MK fog, I live in the real world and have a real life. The TRUTH will set you free!
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Bora,
I’m not suprised you think we are all lazy losers – you are not the first, not even in the top 100 to say this. After all, I’m certain your sales director told you ANYTHING NEGATIVE is bad and ANYONE who doesn’t succeed in MK is just a lazy loser!
Count EVERY hour worked and determine exactly what you make, after expenses! We have seen the REALITY of those numbers. If you are happy with your numbers, good for you!
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Bora….would you be willing to share your T4 (or whatever the income statement’s called in the US)? If you claim that MK is soo wonderful, prove it! I make very good money in my chosen career and I thought MK would be a fun way to have some “girl” time! It was NOT fun….matter of fact it was down right cult like…IME. Plus it’s NOT a good way to make money in less you are willing to lie, cheat and step on others to get to the top.
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Regardless of what people claim to be or not be doing – there is a lot of bashing here. Listen to how hasty the notes are. I understand that reading text can definitely take a conversation out of context and a good reason to be a little more cautious of what we say.
That being said, I’m sure there are a lot of MK drop-outs that have reservations to warn other MK gals about. That’s fine. And I find these comments helpful. And I feel warned.
I have been signed up with MK for about a year. I have a full-time job, so I really haven’t put much effort into it. I have made some cash, but if compared to my initial order in which some products are hard to move and the orders I’ve placed since then for my inventory, considering my time, and other expenses you run into - No, I haven’t made a profit. But, I am still a firm believer that it is what you make of it. And I know I haven’t really tried. So until I myself know I have put forth the effort, I wouldn’t take a pre-cursed failure comment to heart. And I certainly wouldn’t ever lie, cheat or step on anybody to get ahead.
I do love make-up. And I really love the MK product. So I enjoy being an advocate of the products.
I have people close around me that have made MK their career and doing so successfully as far as I can see. Though I’ve never asked to see their tax forms. LOL.
Hmmm.
Okay – that’s all from me.
Feedback welcome. Please be nice.
haha.
Have a good day wherever you are. And good luck in life.
best,
sd
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Nice post still a believer. Welcome.
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Still a believer,
I’m glad that you are working MK your way and are satisfied with the results. Some of us have done that, some of us have worked little or not at all, and some of us have performed every challenge, hit every mall/store, and complimented everyone with skin. As the weight loss diet commercials say, “results will vary”. As long as you working with YOUR personal goals and are happy with the outcome, BRAVO!
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I think that if you are very honest with yourself and actually run the numbers, you will discover that your full-time job is actually paying for your MK activities. I was where you are. I was able to pay for seminar and workshops and section 2 goodies, but it was not with MK money. It looked nice on the Schedule C at tax time, and that was about all.
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ellenK, what you said is what I found to be true also!
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