Comments on: Lina Says “…maybe all you who spoke so mean about this company really do not have what it takes to have your own business…”

By: WhatwasIthinking

WhatwasIthinking — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:57:43 +0000

Ouch, now I have a headache! An oozing pink headache! Ish!!!!

By: rethinkingpink

rethinkingpink — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:02:30 +0000

…and the word “endebt” was supposed to have strikethrough. Why didn’t that work?

By: rethinkingpink

rethinkingpink — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:01:18 +0000

oops that should read “the hard way too.”, not “to.”

By: rethinkingpink

rethinkingpink — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 09:00:29 +0000

Lina,
Why does it upset you that women who were truly lied to and hurt by MK have a place like this to come together, heal, and warn others out of genuine concern?
There are multitudes of us here and elsewhere on the net, and that’s only those who’ve found a forum & joined.
If something hurt you so very badly you’d be sharing your story too, OUT OF LOVE AND CARE so that others wouldn’t have to learn the hard way to.
Lina, quit hating. Go sell some lipstick and ~~endebt~~ enrich another life.

By: lisa

lisa — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 16:56:16 +0000

i get that many women were in units whose directors or recruiters were only thinking of themselves when talking inventory. lipstick, i’ve been selling for 28 years and while i don’t make a 6-figure income with mary kay, i make enough for it to be considered a part-time job. i can’t emphasize enough how it saddens me that most of the gals that comment here appear to have had greedy gals around them. i’m in a unit that if i didn’t know to order product all by myself, i wouldn’t know to order product. my director never talks about it or asks – i know there are directors/recruiters who do, just not, maybe rarely, in my case.

By: Tam

Tam — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:20:56 +0000

Lisa,

I took Lipstick’s comment “Lina, the women who post on this site are talking about REAL experiences in MK and they did everything they could to make it work.
I am sure if you rethink your statement that you really didn’t mean to make such a mean-spirited generalization about women you don’t know.
I am truly happy for you that your experience has been a good one, but I would suggest that you take a good look at your business and see what you are actually making”

to be referring to Lina’s statement “maybe all you who spoke so mean about this company really do not have what it takes to have your own business but dont blame a company for that, accept that instead.”

I do not find “most of the mean-spirited comments come from the former consultants/directors.” I find that most of the comments from former IBC/Directors are HONEST, perhaps extremely and brutally honest, but I don’t think most of us intend them to be mean-spirited, as opposed to the comments posted by the Kaybots, that we (as former IBC/Directors, and MANY current IBC’s that are regulars here) were “lazy” “did not work the business”, etc. , which I find are nothing but mean spirited. JMO

By: Lipstick

Lipstick — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:54:38 +0000

does anyone else find it odd thatlipstick said “a mean-spirited generalization about women you don’t know”, when lipstick seems to do that all day long in the postings about all of mary kay. most of the mean-spirited comments come from the former consultants/directors.

Lisa, I’ve been where you are, horrified that “anyone” could say such things about a company like MK. Within 3 months I was out of the pink fog and into a real life with “THOSE” women.

Meanspirited? NO Truthful about my experiences and many others in this forum? YES

Come inside and discover what we are all about, most of our chat doesn’t even center around MK. We have all moved on and are much happier!

The TRUTH will set you free and you will wonder how you could have possibly been so blind for so long!
I promise we won’t say you are negative and you didn’t work your business!

You might even LIKE us….you’ll never know if you stay on the front page and never go any further….come on ….you know you want to!

By: L J

L J — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 13:38:29 +0000

is subway a multi-level marketing? just asking.

Not MLM, but it is a franchise. You pay lots of money to purchase the franchise, yet it really isn’t yours in the sense that, just like MLMs, there are rules and restrictions on what you can and cannot do.

Sure, it’s his Subway business. But his Subway business is a franchise.

I frequently refer to MK as a home-based franchise, because in reality, that’s what it is. But when you add the recruiting, then you’ve got an MLM.

By: lisa

lisa — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:17:40 +0000

does anyone else find it odd that lipstick said “a mean-spirited generalization about women you don’t know”, when lipstick seems to do that all day long in the postings about all of mary kay. most of the mean-spirited comments come from the former consultants/directors. i managed a subway for 10 years and the owner called it “his business”, even though we were told by corporate what to wear, he couldn’t advertise on his own (everything had to be approved by subway) and he had to absorb operating costs. is subway a multi-level marketing? just asking.

By: Amanda

Amanda — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:05:26 +0000

To Baroness vFP, who wrote:
And hundreds of thousands (probably millions at this point) of women who quit or were forced out of Mary Kay after they ran out of money does not mean they failed. It means the company failed them. They were steamrolled by the big MLM machine, which has a bad habit of making women feel like it’s their own fault.
thank you so much for writing this! I felt like a failure for the 6 months, and am not over it yet. I only did Mary Kay for about 5 months, never even got a party booked, but had $2,000 of inventory that I am sending back tomorrow, but for so long I didn’t want to do it cus I thought I failed and couldn’t admit to my husband that he was right. He said we didn’t have the leverage to suffer 10% loss (plus the sales tax I was never told would be included in the charge until I agreed, another $400 on $4,000 retail value) but I pressured him into it. I made him trust me because I trusted the hype. I still feel a little foolish but recognize that being preyed upon doesn’t make me weak, just human.