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	<title>Comments on: True or False: You earn 50% of everything you sell in Mary Kay</title>
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		<title>By: truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-you-earn-50-of-everything-you-sell-in-mary-kay/comment-page-2/#comment-3344</link>
		<dc:creator>truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 06:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is very interesting... I understand as a director you should set an example in everything you do. however in Utah, to be more specific, in the hispanic areas the NSD and there are two of them who are selling the products 50% of the retail price.One of them was the number 1 nationwide for 2 years.
What a shame! and that is no all... she is killing the market promoting debt, and encouraging her unit to use their credit cards, to complete productions...
This is so easy to prove, consultants and director who save in desktop orders to be paid later (the day after last day of the month which is closing date)the company could also check all the charges made the last two years ago to the same credit card number which belongs to a NSD&#039;s friend, charging high interests to the poor blind consultants and directors who belive in her.
These is not all, also she has recruited people from other areas just changing their names or using just middle name instead. also faking SSN.
All this is happening in Utah, and it is not hard to prove. And the headquarters office could easily prove this just calling all the people who has left the former &quot;powerful&quot;area well called changing lives..
She was the number one, but she pretty much bought the title of NSD paying production made from fake directors who she created just to fullfil the requirement. Please someone do something about it!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is very interesting&#8230; I understand as a director you should set an example in everything you do. however in Utah, to be more specific, in the hispanic areas the NSD and there are two of them who are selling the products 50% of the retail price.One of them was the number 1 nationwide for 2 years.<br />
What a shame! and that is no all&#8230; she is killing the market promoting debt, and encouraging her unit to use their credit cards, to complete productions&#8230;<br />
This is so easy to prove, consultants and director who save in desktop orders to be paid later (the day after last day of the month which is closing date)the company could also check all the charges made the last two years ago to the same credit card number which belongs to a NSD&#8217;s friend, charging high interests to the poor blind consultants and directors who belive in her.<br />
These is not all, also she has recruited people from other areas just changing their names or using just middle name instead. also faking SSN.<br />
All this is happening in Utah, and it is not hard to prove. And the headquarters office could easily prove this just calling all the people who has left the former &#8220;powerful&#8221;area well called changing lives..<br />
She was the number one, but she pretty much bought the title of NSD paying production made from fake directors who she created just to fullfil the requirement. Please someone do something about it!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lipstick</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-you-earn-50-of-everything-you-sell-in-mary-kay/comment-page-2/#comment-3325</link>
		<dc:creator>Lipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice response...I liked your further expalnation and will keep your thoughts in mind!  What a great attitidue you have on life!  You can get more bees with honey than vinegar.  Have a nice day , Sweetbriar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice response&#8230;I liked your further expalnation and will keep your thoughts in mind!  What a great attitidue you have on life!  You can get more bees with honey than vinegar.  Have a nice day , Sweetbriar!</p>
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		<title>By: SweetBriar</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-you-earn-50-of-everything-you-sell-in-mary-kay/comment-page-1/#comment-3324</link>
		<dc:creator>SweetBriar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, thanks for &quot;chilling out&quot;! Lipstick, if one of my relatives was about to take a dive then I&#039;d just have to let them do it. I&#039;ve lived with my grandparents for most of my life and they&#039;ve always had me learn the hard way, but I thank them for it. I&#039;m more easily able to pick out those who are deceptive and my decisions have been better for it. Now, if they did dive off the cliff then I would provide the trampoline at the bottom to catch them -- but they should experience the fall themselves. If they couldn&#039;t see the cliff signs/warnings then I can&#039;t stop them from taking the plunge.  I&#039;m not saying anyone of you aren&#039;t providing enough forewarning, but there are other signs people should have picked up on as well. I guess I just mean to say that signs will smiling faces on them are a lot easier to read. 


Thanks for your comments though, and have a very nice evening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, thanks for &#8220;chilling out&#8221;! Lipstick, if one of my relatives was about to take a dive then I&#8217;d just have to let them do it. I&#8217;ve lived with my grandparents for most of my life and they&#8217;ve always had me learn the hard way, but I thank them for it. I&#8217;m more easily able to pick out those who are deceptive and my decisions have been better for it. Now, if they did dive off the cliff then I would provide the trampoline at the bottom to catch them &#8212; but they should experience the fall themselves. If they couldn&#8217;t see the cliff signs/warnings then I can&#8217;t stop them from taking the plunge.  I&#8217;m not saying anyone of you aren&#8217;t providing enough forewarning, but there are other signs people should have picked up on as well. I guess I just mean to say that signs will smiling faces on them are a lot easier to read. </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments though, and have a very nice evening!</p>
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		<title>By: Lipstick</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-you-earn-50-of-everything-you-sell-in-mary-kay/comment-page-1/#comment-3323</link>
		<dc:creator>Lipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweetbriar...I only have one question for you.  If it were your daughter, Mother, granddaughter, best friend who was the one who had to learn the lesson, wouldn&#039;t you want somebody to forwarn them?  Would you want somebody to sit  on their hands and zip their lips thinking &quot;WOW, she really needs to learn a lesson, I think I&#039;ll just let her jump of the cliff without warning her!&quot;  That is what I would call mean spirited and negative.

We don&#039;t try to make decisions for others, we just try to inform them before they make a decision (best case scenario) or give them a heads up to MK practices if they have already joined.  And if by chance they have been one of the very few who have been successful without frontloading and using others, then, we of course applaud them and are happy for them!

Thanks for posting, I think I&#039;ll go have a frosty drink now and &quot;chill&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweetbriar&#8230;I only have one question for you.  If it were your daughter, Mother, granddaughter, best friend who was the one who had to learn the lesson, wouldn&#8217;t you want somebody to forwarn them?  Would you want somebody to sit  on their hands and zip their lips thinking &#8220;WOW, she really needs to learn a lesson, I think I&#8217;ll just let her jump of the cliff without warning her!&#8221;  That is what I would call mean spirited and negative.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t try to make decisions for others, we just try to inform them before they make a decision (best case scenario) or give them a heads up to MK practices if they have already joined.  And if by chance they have been one of the very few who have been successful without frontloading and using others, then, we of course applaud them and are happy for them!</p>
<p>Thanks for posting, I think I&#8217;ll go have a frosty drink now and &#8220;chill&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Trudie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trudie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello SweetBriar,

I&#039;ve read a lot of the posts on this site and have to disagree with you that there is agression, meanness or hatred displayed here.  Yes, from time to time there is the odd person who comes in and throws down their opinion in a disrespectful matter and we may counteract to their rudeness a bit defensively.  The women that are here have experienced a lot of atrocities in Mary Kay and know that the majority of women that get involved with the company are going to experience the same at some point during their business.  You are completely right that women need to make their own mistakes and learn real life hard lessons.  Personally, I came across this site before I signed my Mary Kay agreement but quickly disregarded everything I had read here because I needed to see for myself.  Thats the truly unfortunate thing:  Women do make their own decisions whether they are good decisions or not.  I had heard the multiple horror stories here about the consultants who experienced such losses emotionally and financially, but those stories were overtaken by all of the manipulations from my sales director and recruiter.  But thats okay, I lived and I learned just like so many of the women that will read the posts on this site, live them for themselves, and then come back to get the support of these fabulous women.  What really blew me away once I decided to get out is how we come from all across North America (I myself live in Canada) yet have all experienced the exact same things.  That just proves that its not just isolated to a certain area.  This deception is actually the roots of the company and yes, you are right when you say that women need to learn this lesson on their own (and theres no doubt they will).  We are all here for IBCs who are going through each stage of this deception for them to know that they are not alone and there are COUNTLESS others who have been there.  And no, we are not here because we don&#039;t know how to manage our money, didn&#039;t work our business, or are push-overs.  We are here because we know that Mary Kay is a fraud/deadend/moneypit and is truly not at all what they make it out to be.  The members who post on this site are always respectful to those who come across in a kind manner.  Its when people come in and judge our intentions and pretend they know what we are here doing and throw names around, that our guards go up, just like any other human being would when confronted in a disrespectful manner.  Okay, I&#039;ll &quot;chill out&quot; know.  Thanks for your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello SweetBriar,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read a lot of the posts on this site and have to disagree with you that there is agression, meanness or hatred displayed here.  Yes, from time to time there is the odd person who comes in and throws down their opinion in a disrespectful matter and we may counteract to their rudeness a bit defensively.  The women that are here have experienced a lot of atrocities in Mary Kay and know that the majority of women that get involved with the company are going to experience the same at some point during their business.  You are completely right that women need to make their own mistakes and learn real life hard lessons.  Personally, I came across this site before I signed my Mary Kay agreement but quickly disregarded everything I had read here because I needed to see for myself.  Thats the truly unfortunate thing:  Women do make their own decisions whether they are good decisions or not.  I had heard the multiple horror stories here about the consultants who experienced such losses emotionally and financially, but those stories were overtaken by all of the manipulations from my sales director and recruiter.  But thats okay, I lived and I learned just like so many of the women that will read the posts on this site, live them for themselves, and then come back to get the support of these fabulous women.  What really blew me away once I decided to get out is how we come from all across North America (I myself live in Canada) yet have all experienced the exact same things.  That just proves that its not just isolated to a certain area.  This deception is actually the roots of the company and yes, you are right when you say that women need to learn this lesson on their own (and theres no doubt they will).  We are all here for IBCs who are going through each stage of this deception for them to know that they are not alone and there are COUNTLESS others who have been there.  And no, we are not here because we don&#8217;t know how to manage our money, didn&#8217;t work our business, or are push-overs.  We are here because we know that Mary Kay is a fraud/deadend/moneypit and is truly not at all what they make it out to be.  The members who post on this site are always respectful to those who come across in a kind manner.  Its when people come in and judge our intentions and pretend they know what we are here doing and throw names around, that our guards go up, just like any other human being would when confronted in a disrespectful manner.  Okay, I&#8217;ll &#8220;chill out&#8221; know.  Thanks for your post.</p>
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		<title>By: SweetBriar</title>
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		<dc:creator>SweetBriar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, can I just mention how mean some of the women/men are posting here? Chill out. Let people make their own decisions no matter how stupid you think they are. We each learn our own way, and if it takes a bad investment to do it then let it be. So many sites are dedicated to educating those in the pink fog--fogs eventually clear up with some rain...so let it rain when it&#039;s time. I just see so much hatred on this site and others. If you truly want to educate others, don&#039;t bash them -- aggression only pushes others away.
I very much feel for those who were lied to by the company and for those who were lied to by their own &quot;friends&quot; in MK. I guess I just can&#039;t pity those who can&#039;t manage their money or are push-overs, which I am not assuming any of you women are. I see you all as women who truly tried the &quot;opportunity&quot; and were kicked severely hard for it, but there was a lesson learned regardless of its positive or negative connotations. Let others learn the hurt for themselves. It&#039;s no good to try and shelter them before they learn a real-life hard lesson. Lessons are, after all, required for education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, can I just mention how mean some of the women/men are posting here? Chill out. Let people make their own decisions no matter how stupid you think they are. We each learn our own way, and if it takes a bad investment to do it then let it be. So many sites are dedicated to educating those in the pink fog&#8211;fogs eventually clear up with some rain&#8230;so let it rain when it&#8217;s time. I just see so much hatred on this site and others. If you truly want to educate others, don&#8217;t bash them &#8212; aggression only pushes others away.<br />
I very much feel for those who were lied to by the company and for those who were lied to by their own &#8220;friends&#8221; in MK. I guess I just can&#8217;t pity those who can&#8217;t manage their money or are push-overs, which I am not assuming any of you women are. I see you all as women who truly tried the &#8220;opportunity&#8221; and were kicked severely hard for it, but there was a lesson learned regardless of its positive or negative connotations. Let others learn the hurt for themselves. It&#8217;s no good to try and shelter them before they learn a real-life hard lesson. Lessons are, after all, required for education.</p>
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		<title>By: Lipstick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>timely, if you feel you have made a mistake you can always have a  40% off sale with your friends and clients and then return the balance of your product to MK for 90% buyback.  You would be eligible to return up to the wholesale amount you have purchased in the past 12 months.

For more details click on &quot;Inventory Return&quot; in the beige toolbar at the top of the page.

If you have more questions or are just searching for options and storeis about what other people have done , join us in the Forum.  Click on the Forum button in the toolbar at the top of the page.

We talk about much more than MK.  You&#039;ll see topics on health, fitness, cooking, family, hobbies, current events, humor and much more.  You&#039;ll meet women who are warm, witty and very supportive.  I hope to see you inside!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>timely, if you feel you have made a mistake you can always have a  40% off sale with your friends and clients and then return the balance of your product to MK for 90% buyback.  You would be eligible to return up to the wholesale amount you have purchased in the past 12 months.</p>
<p>For more details click on &#8220;Inventory Return&#8221; in the beige toolbar at the top of the page.</p>
<p>If you have more questions or are just searching for options and storeis about what other people have done , join us in the Forum.  Click on the Forum button in the toolbar at the top of the page.</p>
<p>We talk about much more than MK.  You&#8217;ll see topics on health, fitness, cooking, family, hobbies, current events, humor and much more.  You&#8217;ll meet women who are warm, witty and very supportive.  I hope to see you inside!</p>
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		<title>By: timely</title>
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		<dc:creator>timely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so sad now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so sad now</p>
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		<title>By: timely</title>
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		<dc:creator>timely</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 08:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after reading all of your comments makes me weary if i should have studied MaryKay before diving into the bisness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after reading all of your comments makes me weary if i should have studied MaryKay before diving into the bisness</p>
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		<title>By: L J</title>
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		<dc:creator>L J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now as for how she does it? I have no idea. All i know is she loves what she does, and she has a customer list and a team list ‘a mile long’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let me give you a clue...it&#039;s that mile long team list. Your mom is making money getting people to sign up and then buy thousands of dollars of inventory AND commissions on any sales those team members make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now as for how she does it? I have no idea. All i know is she loves what she does, and she has a customer list and a team list ‘a mile long’.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let me give you a clue&#8230;it&#8217;s that mile long team list. Your mom is making money getting people to sign up and then buy thousands of dollars of inventory AND commissions on any sales those team members make.</p>
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