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	<title>Comments on: True or False: Mary Kay Isn&#8217;t MLM, It&#8217;s Dual Marketing</title>
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		<title>By: Water_Lili</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-mary-kay-isnt-mlm-its-dual-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-4052</link>
		<dc:creator>Water_Lili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Hey everybody &quot;]
Like Melissa I accidentally came upon this site. Well my mother joined Mary Kay a year ago but then was unable to continue due to lack of support. Recently she started again and YES it does require time and money but if you&#039;re good at it, then you&#039;re made if not, it wille hard. Not eveyone is cut out to sell. My mom is an outgoing and friendly person and so far she is happy with her Mary Kay job, just yesterday she debuted as red jacket consultant. She seems so happy with it all I am considering to join the Mary Kay family myself =]. 
As for the people who sy so much abot MK being bad, maybe it was just your bad experience,(sorry if that sounds rude, that was not my intention)
Once again if you are a people person, this job can be your thing, you just have to be positive and over look the hindrences in life.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Hey everybody &#8220;]<br />
Like Melissa I accidentally came upon this site. Well my mother joined Mary Kay a year ago but then was unable to continue due to lack of support. Recently she started again and YES it does require time and money but if you&#8217;re good at it, then you&#8217;re made if not, it wille hard. Not eveyone is cut out to sell. My mom is an outgoing and friendly person and so far she is happy with her Mary Kay job, just yesterday she debuted as red jacket consultant. She seems so happy with it all I am considering to join the Mary Kay family myself =]. <br />
As for the people who sy so much abot MK being bad, maybe it was just your bad experience,(sorry if that sounds rude, that was not my intention)<br />
Once again if you are a people person, this job can be your thing, you just have to be positive and over look the hindrences in life.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Lipstick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 4 types. The 4th is a person is so busy trying to make something happen she doesn&#039;t bother to look wherr she is posting and leaves her address all over an anti-MK web site...won&#039;t get many customers here darlin&#039;.
Most of us chose to opt out of MK because we found it wasn&#039;t to be a great opportunity to make money (after deductions for business expenses, there was very little left).
Take my advice, I quit my full time job to do MK too.  One of 2 things will happen to you:
1) you will not be disciplined to work your business 24/7 (that&#039;s what it takes to make anything)
2) You will find out how much work there is and how little time left for your family and how little money you do make and wish you had that full time job back with a regular paycheck and your free time for your family!
Do yourself a big favor and enter the forum and read around to find out what real life is like in MK.  You can bet your 23 y/o SD with the 2nd car is making it because she is a great recruiter ( she sells the &quot;dream&quot; well) and and even better inventory frontloader!
She doesn&#039;t make a dime or earn the USE of a car unless she has lots of people purchasing and believe me that MK doesn&#039;t just jump off your shelves and people won&#039;t be beating your door down to buy it.  In fact by the time you pester them a few times to buy or hold a SCC they will be running from you and avoiding your phone calls!
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 4 types. The 4th is a person is so busy trying to make something happen she doesn&#8217;t bother to look wherr she is posting and leaves her address all over an anti-MK web site&#8230;won&#8217;t get many customers here darlin&#8217;.<br />
Most of us chose to opt out of MK because we found it wasn&#8217;t to be a great opportunity to make money (after deductions for business expenses, there was very little left).<br />
Take my advice, I quit my full time job to do MK too.  One of 2 things will happen to you:<br />
1) you will not be disciplined to work your business 24/7 (that&#8217;s what it takes to make anything)<br />
2) You will find out how much work there is and how little time left for your family and how little money you do make and wish you had that full time job back with a regular paycheck and your free time for your family!<br />
Do yourself a big favor and enter the forum and read around to find out what real life is like in MK.  You can bet your 23 y/o SD with the 2nd car is making it because she is a great recruiter ( she sells the &#8220;dream&#8221; well) and and even better inventory frontloader!<br />
She doesn&#8217;t make a dime or earn the USE of a car unless she has lots of people purchasing and believe me that MK doesn&#8217;t just jump off your shelves and people won&#8217;t be beating your door down to buy it.  In fact by the time you pester them a few times to buy or hold a SCC they will be running from you and avoiding your phone calls!<br />
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		<title>By: Leee lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leee lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love being a part of marykay company and i been with my other job almost 5 years and plan to leave them by xmas and make marykay my full-time job yes full-time I&#039;m so excited i can stay home with my two boys and so much more and one part I&#039;m amazed by is my director started in 2005 she is 23 yrs old n she has won her second free car. for more info email me poochie2144@yahoo.com don&#039;t knock it till you try it. it has changed my life in so many ways. Marykay once said there are 3 types of people in the world 1- those who make things happen. 2- those who see things happen. 3- and those who ask themselves what happen. Which one are you?????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love being a part of marykay company and i been with my other job almost 5 years and plan to leave them by xmas and make marykay my full-time job yes full-time I&#8217;m so excited i can stay home with my two boys and so much more and one part I&#8217;m amazed by is my director started in 2005 she is 23 yrs old n she has won her second free car. for more info email me <a href="mailto:poochie2144@yahoo.com">poochie2144@yahoo.com</a> don&#8217;t knock it till you try it. it has changed my life in so many ways. Marykay once said there are 3 types of people in the world 1- those who make things happen. 2- those who see things happen. 3- and those who ask themselves what happen. Which one are you?????????</p>
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		<title>By: BabyBlues</title>
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		<dc:creator>BabyBlues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marge,
Key words are: &quot; I may not be making enough money to support my family&quot;
This site is also for active IBC ( I am one) I have learned more here than you can imagine...good, bad and indifferent...
Have a life and living it!  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marge,<br />
Key words are: &#8221; I may not be making enough money to support my family&#8221;<br />
This site is also for active IBC ( I am one) I have learned more here than you can imagine&#8230;good, bad and indifferent&#8230;<br />
Have a life and living it!  =)</p>
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		<title>By: Marge</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-mary-kay-isnt-mlm-its-dual-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-3891</link>
		<dc:creator>Marge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE LOVE LOVE my MK Business...and I love the product...and my customers love the product...I have read all the comments...some good and some not so good and I wonder for the ones who left the nasty comments...why do you sit at your computer and look for things to nag and complain about...get a life...and live...geez...oh and did I mention I love Mary Kay?...oh yes I did...and I may not b making enough money to support my family ...thank goodness my husband and I make enough money for that...I get to travel and visit so many wonderful ladies...and I wouldn&#039;t trade that for anything...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE LOVE LOVE my MK Business&#8230;and I love the product&#8230;and my customers love the product&#8230;I have read all the comments&#8230;some good and some not so good and I wonder for the ones who left the nasty comments&#8230;why do you sit at your computer and look for things to nag and complain about&#8230;get a life&#8230;and live&#8230;geez&#8230;oh and did I mention I love Mary Kay?&#8230;oh yes I did&#8230;and I may not b making enough money to support my family &#8230;thank goodness my husband and I make enough money for that&#8230;I get to travel and visit so many wonderful ladies&#8230;and I wouldn&#8217;t trade that for anything&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vivi</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-mary-kay-isnt-mlm-its-dual-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-3889</link>
		<dc:creator>Vivi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 01:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Mary Kay is such a false. The person that started it was very smart and the girl lied to me , and yes, obviously the more people you bring the more benefit is for you! and i wont do that, is immoral, having ppl and telling them is not, and when you go to training they said, bring girls and have them do what you&#039;re doing.. so what&#039;s the answer.... pyramis skam.. and they charge the  product tax twice, eventhough you buy out of state, they charge you tax on the order that should be more than 50 dollars, because shipping is A LOT..for a 10 dollar item you get charge 8 dollars shipping.... that you have to charge your customer. So another thing, when you sell the product you charge the customer for tax, so then, the items you already bought from Mary Kay, that you already paid taxes on, you charge it again, so you have to inform the gorvernment for tax filling, and you loose money by paying tax on a product and paying what you get back, so that also tells you how you would DEFINITELY loose! money..... and a product does not charge twice, but i called the tax government and they said that if the company policy is so, that they would charge to out of state, is ok to do! so i gues that&#039;s legal, but they do not have to ... so in case you do not file taxes and you dont pay then the income tax may be a problem for the individual .
I DO NOT RECOMMEND MARY KAY NO ANYONE, YOUNG THAT HAS MONEY.
RATHER HELP IN ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP FIND A CURE FOR CANCER AND TO HELP
RATHER THAN MARY KAY, CUZ YOU WILL LOOSE MONEY. LIKE I DID  AND I DID THE 
RIGHT THING. BUT BECAUSE I WAS LIED ON I WOULDN LET MY FRIENDS JOIN JUST SO THAT
I GET MONEY FOR THEM DOING SO....

BYE !
THANKS.
BE SAFE ! GREAT COMMENT UP THERE...LJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Mary Kay is such a false. The person that started it was very smart and the girl lied to me , and yes, obviously the more people you bring the more benefit is for you! and i wont do that, is immoral, having ppl and telling them is not, and when you go to training they said, bring girls and have them do what you&#8217;re doing.. so what&#8217;s the answer&#8230;. pyramis skam.. and they charge the  product tax twice, eventhough you buy out of state, they charge you tax on the order that should be more than 50 dollars, because shipping is A LOT..for a 10 dollar item you get charge 8 dollars shipping&#8230;. that you have to charge your customer. So another thing, when you sell the product you charge the customer for tax, so then, the items you already bought from Mary Kay, that you already paid taxes on, you charge it again, so you have to inform the gorvernment for tax filling, and you loose money by paying tax on a product and paying what you get back, so that also tells you how you would DEFINITELY loose! money&#8230;.. and a product does not charge twice, but i called the tax government and they said that if the company policy is so, that they would charge to out of state, is ok to do! so i gues that&#8217;s legal, but they do not have to &#8230; so in case you do not file taxes and you dont pay then the income tax may be a problem for the individual .<br />
I DO NOT RECOMMEND MARY KAY NO ANYONE, YOUNG THAT HAS MONEY.<br />
RATHER HELP IN ORGANIZATIONS TO HELP FIND A CURE FOR CANCER AND TO HELP<br />
RATHER THAN MARY KAY, CUZ YOU WILL LOOSE MONEY. LIKE I DID  AND I DID THE<br />
RIGHT THING. BUT BECAUSE I WAS LIED ON I WOULDN LET MY FRIENDS JOIN JUST SO THAT<br />
I GET MONEY FOR THEM DOING SO&#8230;.</p>
<p>BYE !<br />
THANKS.<br />
BE SAFE ! GREAT COMMENT UP THERE&#8230;LJ</p>
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		<title>By: Lipstick</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-mary-kay-isnt-mlm-its-dual-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-3656</link>
		<dc:creator>Lipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Melissa, thanks for posting a viewpoint from the &quot;outside&quot;.  I&#039;m sure your post will help many women, who think that those of us who were once in MK are just &quot;lazy losers&quot;, &quot;negative Nellies&quot; or just being spiteful because we didn&#039;t &quot;make it&quot;!
Melissa, you sound like a great friend, why don&#039;t you point your friend towards this site and tell her that you think she should read the stories of those who were in MK so she can at least be aware of some of the pitfalls of MK.  The stories posted here range from &quot;newbies&quot; who got out quickly to those who were Senior Consultants, Red Jackets, DIQ and yes even SD&#039;s who got out because they weren&#039;t making money in MK.  Some had incredible amounts of debt and most were not gullible, they just got pulled in by the &quot;dream&quot; of making a 6 figure income and owning thier own business.
 
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Melissa, thanks for posting a viewpoint from the &#8220;outside&#8221;.  I&#8217;m sure your post will help many women, who think that those of us who were once in MK are just &#8220;lazy losers&#8221;, &#8220;negative Nellies&#8221; or just being spiteful because we didn&#8217;t &#8220;make it&#8221;!<br />
Melissa, you sound like a great friend, why don&#8217;t you point your friend towards this site and tell her that you think she should read the stories of those who were in MK so she can at least be aware of some of the pitfalls of MK.  The stories posted here range from &#8220;newbies&#8221; who got out quickly to those who were Senior Consultants, Red Jackets, DIQ and yes even SD&#8217;s who got out because they weren&#8217;t making money in MK.  Some had incredible amounts of debt and most were not gullible, they just got pulled in by the &#8220;dream&#8221; of making a 6 figure income and owning thier own business.<br />
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-mary-kay-isnt-mlm-its-dual-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-3653</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 15:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lipstick sounds like the most enlightened person in here.. I just got here by accident and have been browsing around the website. I have a friend that sells Mary Kay and after watching her for a year or so, I keep thinking, &quot;What in the hell is this girl thinking??&quot; She lives at home with her parents at 29, no prospect of moving out, and doesn&#039;t seem to have much in the way of mulah.. Yet she keeps on at this &quot;business&quot; that doesn&#039;t seem to be getting her anywhere. Now, maybe she&#039;s just not a good saleswoman, but she is constantly encouraged by her MK consultant family (however it works) to &quot;keep trying&quot;. Seems like a real friend needs to tell her &quot;Go get a real job&quot;. lol

I can&#039;t believe someone would actually come onto a serious message board and say &quot;So what if it&#039;s MLM?&quot; Sweet Jesus people, are you even smart enough to use a computer? That&#039;s what we intelligent folks call a &quot;scam&quot;. You won&#039;t get anywhere with it because it implodes. Do you think that the BBB and every other reputable agency in the US looks down upon those companies just for fun? Because they don&#039;t like what they&#039;re selling? No, they earned that title because they rip people off, and make great profits doing so.

It&#039;s your choice if you want to be involved in any of these businesses, but really guys, use your brains (if you have one). The only people who are going to make money at a business like this is someone who is a naturally great salesperson who has plenty of networks and interested parties. A FEW women, I&#039;m sure, do great with MK and have great stories. But these commercials saying that &quot;anyone&quot; can do it are just BS. I would stay away from any company claiming that &quot;anyone&quot; could find success with their product. That&#039;s just a red flag that it&#039;s baloney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lipstick sounds like the most enlightened person in here.. I just got here by accident and have been browsing around the website. I have a friend that sells Mary Kay and after watching her for a year or so, I keep thinking, &#8220;What in the hell is this girl thinking??&#8221; She lives at home with her parents at 29, no prospect of moving out, and doesn&#8217;t seem to have much in the way of mulah.. Yet she keeps on at this &#8220;business&#8221; that doesn&#8217;t seem to be getting her anywhere. Now, maybe she&#8217;s just not a good saleswoman, but she is constantly encouraged by her MK consultant family (however it works) to &#8220;keep trying&#8221;. Seems like a real friend needs to tell her &#8220;Go get a real job&#8221;. lol</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe someone would actually come onto a serious message board and say &#8220;So what if it&#8217;s MLM?&#8221; Sweet Jesus people, are you even smart enough to use a computer? That&#8217;s what we intelligent folks call a &#8220;scam&#8221;. You won&#8217;t get anywhere with it because it implodes. Do you think that the BBB and every other reputable agency in the US looks down upon those companies just for fun? Because they don&#8217;t like what they&#8217;re selling? No, they earned that title because they rip people off, and make great profits doing so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s your choice if you want to be involved in any of these businesses, but really guys, use your brains (if you have one). The only people who are going to make money at a business like this is someone who is a naturally great salesperson who has plenty of networks and interested parties. A FEW women, I&#8217;m sure, do great with MK and have great stories. But these commercials saying that &#8220;anyone&#8221; can do it are just BS. I would stay away from any company claiming that &#8220;anyone&#8221; could find success with their product. That&#8217;s just a red flag that it&#8217;s baloney.</p>
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		<title>By: L J</title>
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		<dc:creator>L J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 14:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, if you want to be an esthetician, ditch the Mary Kay crap and go to esthetician school. That&#039;s the only way. 

Doing &quot;facials&quot; in Mary Kay is nothing but a sales pitch. If you want to learn how to REALLY care for people&#039;s skin then get the training that will let you do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, if you want to be an esthetician, ditch the Mary Kay crap and go to esthetician school. That&#8217;s the only way. </p>
<p>Doing &#8220;facials&#8221; in Mary Kay is nothing but a sales pitch. If you want to learn how to REALLY care for people&#8217;s skin then get the training that will let you do it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lipstick</title>
		<link>http://www.pinklighthouse.com/2008/05/true-or-false-mary-kay-isnt-mlm-its-dual-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-3373</link>
		<dc:creator>Lipstick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 21:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, may I ask why you just rejoined MK for the third time if as you say you are tired of the lies and manipulation?  Why not find professional products you like that you can carry in a salon or spa setting after your training to be an esthetician?  You know MK doesn&#039;t allow the use and display of their products in a retail setting.

What do you think has changed about MK that will make the third time &quot;charmed&quot;  for you?  I am not trying to be disrespectful, just trying to figure out why you would want to join a third time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, may I ask why you just rejoined MK for the third time if as you say you are tired of the lies and manipulation?  Why not find professional products you like that you can carry in a salon or spa setting after your training to be an esthetician?  You know MK doesn&#8217;t allow the use and display of their products in a retail setting.</p>
<p>What do you think has changed about MK that will make the third time &#8220;charmed&#8221;  for you?  I am not trying to be disrespectful, just trying to figure out why you would want to join a third time.</p>
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